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    04-18-2011, 07:33 AM
Tom Thumb?

Okay, so I keep hearing about Tom Thumbs being leverage bits, and it's confusing me all to hell.

I know of two types of bits called Tom Thumb, a fixed cheek like this, or one with a loose ring like a fulmer. Pretty common in driving, racing and on ponies.

The way I see it, TT bits are short-cheek versions of the full cheek/fulmer. Definitely not a leverage bit. So what else is a Tom Thumb? I'd like to know because if it's as nasty as people say, I want to avoid it.
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    04-18-2011, 07:35 AM
This is what I know as a tom thumb bit.

    04-18-2011, 07:40 AM

And this is what I know as a tom thumb

    04-18-2011, 07:42 AM
Hmmmm, im confuzzled??
    04-18-2011, 08:28 AM
Noddy are you outside of the Americas?

The two bits posted first should be referred to as "full cheek" and then either eggbutt or loose ring, obviously depending on what they are. A true TT is a curb, those are both snaffles. It is most common to refer to them as TT in the UK, AU and NZ.
    04-18-2011, 09:20 AM
I'm in NZ, and I've always known them as Tom Thumb snaffles, but I think they're called half-cheek or half spoon or something like that sometimes. We call fulmers and full cheeks.. well, full cheeks. Those TTs are half the size of full cheeks.

Okay, that TT curb explains a bit, but I still don't quite see the huge problem. No, it wouldn't give much warning as to rein cues, but long shank pelhams and weymouths are just as straight/long, aren't they. I think I'm missing something.

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    04-19-2011, 12:58 AM
why do so many people object to Tomb Thumbs and dislike them?

That's the argument against the American shanked Tom Thumb. Of course the same can't be said for the NZ snaffle.
    04-20-2011, 02:30 AM
Is there a few different types of tom thumb? If not, what IS the Tom thumb bit?
    04-20-2011, 02:32 AM
That's what this thread is about. The snaffle in the OP is a New Zealand Tom Thumb. The one equiniphile posted is a totally different bit, but that's what Americans and Canadians call a TT. And apparently in Britain, a TT is a broken Pelham...
    04-20-2011, 02:48 AM
LOL, maybe we should start saying "the American Tom Thumb" or the ATT when we are talking about the crappy one with a jointed mouth and shanks. With this being a world wide forum, this confusion actually happens quite often.

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