Training Fork vs. Running Martingale Attachment

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    06-14-2011, 02:06 AM
Training Fork vs. Running Martingale Attachment

Feeling kind of silly to be asking this. I've never used either until recently, because I never had a need to and I'm the type to avoid using any equipment that is unnecessary. But recently it has become necessary for Amber, as we have got to start getting her carrying herself properly, because we discovered it's causing her to put too much strain on certain muscles/tendons.

Anyhow, I've been borrowing one from my barn manager, but this is obviously going to be a tool we will use a lot in the next few months, so I'd like to invest in my own.

I'm wondering, could I use a running martingale attachment like this one like a training fork? It "looks" to be about the same size as the one I have been using.
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    06-14-2011, 02:10 AM
Why is it "necessary?"
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    06-14-2011, 02:17 AM
as we have got to start getting her carrying herself properly, because we discovered it's causing her to put too much strain on certain muscles/tendons.
Now I can see where this is headed, and I hope nobody will take this the wrong way, but my barn manager and trainer are very experienced, they know my mare and I'd rather not make this thread about whether or not martingales and training forks are necessary or unnecessary. It's not meant to be disrespectful to anyone, or rude, but I have a personal rule that I don't take internet advice for my horse's training, only that of my trainers...
    06-14-2011, 02:47 AM
Goodness, over defensive huh? If your barn manager and trainer are experienced and you only take advise from them, why are you asking here?

A running martingale should have zero effect unless the horse is likely to smack you in face with it's head. I always ride in a running martingale but it is attached so it would only apply if the horse were to have severe moment. It is effectively null and void in the every day training I have used with this horse for 2 years.
If you want to use methods to control your horses head, you will not get collection, as that is engaging the hind, but you could use side reins, many people do that - and they do that without responding to the first response they receive the way that you just did.

That's the thing about the internet, ask for opinions and you will receive them.
    06-14-2011, 10:39 AM
Sounds like your horse's pain needs to be addressed at the source. Another piece of equipment is not going to make the pain go away, and as AlexS stated, the "martingale should have zero effect..."
You need to address the pain, maybe then you will get the collection you are looking for. Head carriage should be natural and not forced, however it can be taught with collection excersices. No matter what the head carriage might be, it doesn't FIX the pain.
Good luck!
    06-14-2011, 01:40 PM
I said training, not necessarily a simple question of if equipment being interchangable or not.

We have found the offness goes away when she carries her head lower. Again, I did not create this thread to get second opinions on my mares health and training, but obvious that's the internet. Unsolicited advice abounds.
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    06-14-2011, 02:40 PM
Are you attaching your martingale to your breast plate? The martingale you linked to looks like one that needs to be clipped to the chest ring or breast plate.
    06-14-2011, 03:00 PM
Yes, it is, but it looks comparable in size and structure to the training fork we are using, thus I wondered if I could use it as such.
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    06-14-2011, 03:06 PM
You did not answer my full question. I guess I will ask it a different way.

Where are you attaching this?
    06-14-2011, 03:12 PM
At the girth. Sorry, on my phone and I guess I just read wrong.

My reasoning was that it would be about the same length as a training fork.
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