I don't know what to think Celeste! I like them both for different reasons...I need advice for sure
I loved the Torsion's leather even though it's slippery, but I think it needs a firmer pad, maybe a Skito pad with the wool felt inserts?
I love the way the Barefoot rides like a Dressage saddle, and works with the pad I have, but I really think it is too big for Chivas.
I loved the Torsion until I rode in the Cheyenne, Chivas definitely rode better in the Cheyenne, but his back would hurt on longer rides. I just don't know what to do...
I do hope some treeless folks chime in!!