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post #1 of 9 Old 07-14-2011, 12:31 AM Thread Starter
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treeless saddles?

Long story short, my mother's horse has put on so much topline since we got him in September last year that he has gone through about five saddles and now needs a new one. One of the saddles she is looking at is a barefoot treeless and she wants to know more about them.

One thing in particular that bothers her is that the girth straps don't seem to go all the way over the top of the saddle so we would both like to know how long you have had your treeless for with no issues and what you do in it.

Thank you all very much.
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post #2 of 9 Old 07-14-2011, 11:30 PM
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I was looking into this brand of treeless as well. I have heard only good things compared to any of the others out there. I have heard they slip a bit but they last quite awhile. Hope that helps you out a bit and hope the saddle works great for your mother if you do get it!
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We borrowed it to try it out for a few days and Mum's horse was bucking in it. He doesn't buck, has never tried bucking EVER (and we took him on knowing he had a reputation as a problem rearer - no, he doesn't rear any more, turns out it was physical pain combined with severe emotional distress. We've mostly been concentrating on the physical side of his issues and the emotional has been improving along the way).

So we decided that between Man bucking (he was otherwise totally comfortable and moving through his shoulders like he never has before - he has shoulder problems) and Mum and I not being sure about the girth straps, we would give it a miss. Plus Mum doesn't want to pay $800 for a secondhand saddle that she could get for $1000 brand new - this one has seen a LOT of use.

We might try to find a western saddle with full QH bars.
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post #4 of 9 Old 07-15-2011, 10:56 PM
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Yeah, at that price.. dang I would get custom. (LOL)
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post #5 of 9 Old 07-15-2011, 11:11 PM
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pony, we had couple threads about treeless saddles just very recently. Try to look for other threads, there were bunch of opinions/experience posted.

I never really tried treeless, but from what I know you need special pad, it doesn't fit all and every horse, and the rider should be very good rider (with good balance).

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Ansur brand treeless saddles are hugely popular in my barn. I'd say that about 75% of the boarders there (40 boarders) have at least one Ansur saddle, though most of the boarders have 2+ saddles.

I'm borrowing an Ansur dressage saddle and I really love it. Very comfy. My horse moves a lot better with it as well.

Everyone at my barn that uses the Ansur saddle is using a Limpet brand saddle pad to go with it, if that helps.
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post #7 of 9 Old 07-15-2011, 11:34 PM Thread Starter
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Well I wouldn't pay more than 1/2 the brand new price for something as worn as the one we were looking at! The going price for second hand gear is 1/2 the brand new price unless it's in brand new condition - if it has damage or wear, it's not worth even close to what you could get it for brand new.

We KNOW about treeless saddles, we have a friend who has one. We did everything right and Man bucked in it so clearly, it's not right for him.

We had a very specific concern (the girth points) so I feel that I am/was justified in creating my own thread. Turns out it's not relevant anyway, because the saddle doesn't work for the horse.
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I have a barefoot cheyenne and I absolutely LOVE IT..so does my horse. You do have to have good balance and you will find it fast with a treeless. You do need a special pad for it or your horse will be in pain and like one of the members said,it doesn't always work out for the horses. The billets are long dressage billets. You need a dressage girth. I've had mine for a few months now and love it.Feels like a big ol couch. The barefoot cheynne has a forward girth
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post #9 of 9 Old 07-16-2011, 05:07 AM Thread Starter
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Mum might just go bareback, she has the balance for it and we wouldn't have to worry about saddles for him.

Take one look at her and you'd think she was really into the Parelli but the reality is that Man has huge emotional issues and the only thing you can ride him in is the halter or he rears (bit, mechanical hackamore, you name it we've tried it and it's the rope halter that works for him). We knew he was going to be a tricky horse to figure out, we just didn't know HOW tricky!

We've always got a saddle saga going on here, it seems. It took me a year to find the right saddle for my old horse, which thank goodness also fits Monty, although it is a dressage saddle and I'd rather spend my time jumping so sooner or later I'll be in the market for a jumping saddle. And there's the ongoing saga of Man's changing shape, of course. He arrived underweight from the stress of travel (only 3 hours but he looked like he'd been shipped the length of the country), and his shape has been in constant change ever since, while he builds the proper muscles up again. He was in a very incorrect way of going for a very long time. It's only within the last 3 months that Mum's even been able to get a trot out of him, he used to amble or pace, and he's a QH, not a gaited horse.

It's a saga for sure. Turns out the treeless isn't right for Man but hey, there's no one saddle that's the solution for every horse. Probably the saddle he's been happiest in was the wintec western, but that's too narrow now. Off to try to find one wide enough!
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