I asked a question about this and was linked to this thread before it was a sticky. I used the stick in the stirrups for 2 weeks, and it made a significant difference (I didn't even wet the fender). I got 2 rides out of the saddle before I ended up with a herniated disk and couldn't do anything...(30 more days until I can ride again
) but the main reason I asked was because my knee was killing me at the end of a ride. It was so different and relieved so much of the knee pain. Since the saddle has been out of use for 5 weeks now, it's sitting on the stand with the stick in the stirrups right now, but my daughter takes it out at least once a week to see if it sticks...so far it has. This saddle is 40 years old and has been through my grandpa, my aunt, me and soon my daughter so it was sort of "set in its ways" so to speak...but we're gently persuading it to change for us. It works.