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post #11 of 18 Old 09-12-2012, 07:26 PM
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Yes Oh vair oh...I've seen these on the Bit Swap facebook page and continuously wonder. I wouldn't buy one but if someone wants to, alrighty then. lol

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #12 of 18 Old 09-12-2012, 07:44 PM
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If you buy a bit does it mean you have to hang it on him for the rest of his life?


Using a twisted wire properly for a schooling session, isnt going to kill a horse. There is nothing wrong with using that bit, again, if you know how to use it, to achieve a different feel and going back to your smooth snaffle.

If you plan to step up to that bit and consistantly use it you risk getting caught in the "need a bigger bit to control my horse" mode.

But, if your horse is hard in the face you need to rethink why.

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post #13 of 18 Old 09-12-2012, 08:21 PM
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I had a twisted wire combination bit that I used on Goose. But since he was so light in the mouth, and twisted bits aren't (at least weren't) allowed in app shows, I wrapped the bit with latex bandage. You have wrap carefully though, so you don't get any creases.

The bit in the OP is commonly referred to as a half breed side pull. I've seen people use it (a less severe version anyway) as a transition from a sidepull to a snaffle.
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A large twisted wire bit never bothered me too much when I saw people using it but the small ones are a bit much. Right up there with bicycle chain bits and chain saw bits. Why would anyone need those really? I am also against long shanks on curb bits. It seems so many people don't do the ground work and rely on heavy bits for control that they should have gotten though proper training.

That said, I did have one horse that I had to switch bits on every so often or she got board. She liked all the little tongue teasers on the bits and seemed to enjoy "figuring them out."
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Originally Posted by oh vair oh View Post
Why would you put a twisted wire on a side-pull? Is that weird to anyone else but me? You use either the side-pull or the twisted wire. Right?
I didn't put it on there, I got it that way. Look I know a ton about horses, I don't know much about bits and stuff, so now I do!! Thanks guys!!

OH and my side pull is an older one, you can't take the bit off. Your stuck with that bit. You'd literally have to cute the leather off and ruin the bridle to get it off.
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post #16 of 18 Old 09-13-2012, 09:26 PM
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There actually is a proper use for a twisted wire snaffle bit. Often a trainer will use one for a while when re-training a horse that has become insensitive in the mouth and responds poorly to cues on the curb bit. If you have a horse that is becoming "hard-mouthed", or begins to tug against the bit when you put pressure on the bit, you can switch to a twisted-wire snaffle for a few training session and again teach him to give to the bit and flex at the poll, like he should have been doing all along. Yes, it causes him some discomfort in the mouth. That's what it's for. It teaches him that it hurts to pull back against the bit and that it feels much better if he flexes and gives to the bit. Once he's responding as he should, you go back to a less aggressive bit.

Just like with spurs, or any other training aid, there is a proper use and a proper way to use them.
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If the mouth is hard, training can fix that better than using a bit as a quick fix.
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I have had horses that just flat out like a twisted bit....Though again, the bit must be nicely made and an appropriate thickness for me to use it.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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