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post #1 of 9 Old 09-11-2011, 11:01 AM Thread Starter
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Twisted wire snaffle

So, I'm starting to look for bits for the new pony. She's four and still a little green. My friend that told me about her suggested I get a twisted wire snaffle to use on her for schooling. He said it'll give me a little more oomph so she'll have a little more respect for the bit when I switch to a plain snaffle for shows. He's a pretty good trainer and all the horses I've ridde that he's worked with have been really soft and light in the bridle. So I respect his opinion, but at the same time I've never been a fan on twisted wire bits. The only time I've ever really ridden in one was on a lesson horse who had a rock hard mouth.

So what do you guys think? Have you had success with a twisted wire snaffle (I'm talking reasonably thick here no those scary ones that are like a millimeter thick). Would you never use one and why? Discuss
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I like a twisted wire. When used properly it does give you the end result you are looking for. If you buy one and happen to do so online pay attention to the shape of it. Some of them have a bit of a rounded type of shape for comfort but it actually ends up making the bit 1/4 inch smaller then what they say. So if you get a five inch bit that has that bend in it then you'll end up rubbing on the sides of the mouth. Try to get the one that is shaped like a normal snaffle. Does that make sense?

Ok - that post didn't make a lot of sense. This one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004AHGA0I/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002WVIXY0&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1K5P1MAB422MHQ7HRAJ7 Is an offset wire snaffle. It's kind of like the original one I bought and it will rub the crap out of your horses mouth if you don't order it bigger then your normal size.

This was closer to the one I bought to replace the above one. http://www.rods.com/Myler-2-one-half...klat,5009.html

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I am afraid I disagree with using a twisted wire on a greenie. I want the horse in the fattest, most gentle three link snaffle that is comfortable in their mouth. I want the horse to learn through positive reinforcement rather than resort to pain for a horse likely to act out of ignorance, not resistance. A green horse will chew and move a bit around in their mouth a lot. Twisted wire, when mobile, just can't help being uncomfortable, IMO.
Western, at least, tries to keep loose contact. But, in English.....contact is there. Twisted is tough for a horse to escape. OP, your photo shows English......
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I actually ride both English and western. This bit would be for western schooling. I want to get a nice french link D for my English bridle.
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I completely agree with Allison. I don't think twisted wire bit is a good choice in general, much less on greenie.

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Nothing wrong with a fat twisted bit (I like the Reinsman one, pictured below), but you do have to soften your hands accordingly, or you'll make your horse even tougher-mouthed than he was before. Thin twisted bits are brutal.



Edit: I missed the part where the pony is still fairly green. I'd definitely back off on the bit steps, then, and take it easy for a while yet, while she still figures things out...
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I am another that doesn't believe in using a twisted bit on a greenie. If the horse isn't being as responsive as you like, then there needs to be something changed in the training program. I've always used a simple slick snaffle on all my greenies and I've never had a problem getting them super soft and doing exactly what I wanted them to do.

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Personally I don't think a stronger bit is ever the answer. You don't want to go down that road stronger bit leaves the horse even less responsive (in a short time) so then you are looking for an even stronger bit and it goes on and on....
I have friends who use these really harsh bits on their horses and I've seen the progression.... friends it is NOT pretty and you end up with a horse with a mouth like a rock that will never be as light and responsive as what we want.....

I'd try riding him in a normal snaffle or a french snaffle and back up a step in your training.

Are you having problems with the horse now OP? What makes you think that the twisted bit is needed?
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I actually haven't gotten her home yet lol. She'll be here next Saturday! She was nice and soft in the bridle when I test rode her and I'd like to keep it that way. It's just that's what my friend reccomended, and what her previous owner had been riding her in I believe. I've always preferred a simple snaffle for schooling horses so I guess I'm better off sticking with what I know. I'll definitely keep you posted with our progress. I'm so excited to get started working with her :)
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