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    10-24-2013, 09:25 PM
unbelievable white hairs from saddles

The white patches behind the shoulder are from one saddle with a wide tree. The other 3 are from her new( fitted from a saddleshop) and only took about a month for these to appear. This is so unacceptable. The behind the shoulder spots actually went away over the winter, when spring came they were barely noticeable. Had also been using a Thinline pad with shims on first saddle. Had a saddlefitter out to help with first one as well.
The same saddleshop acknowledged the pics that I sent them and suggested CircleY Gillette 2615 with a round skirt or the Cold Springs 2616 with a square skirt. When we tried both the reg tree and the wide tree none fit. Both of these above saddles are supposed to fit foundation type horses in which the tree is wider from the shoulder to the loins which doesn't help if they are too wide in front already..I feel like I let this mare down, I have tried and am not giving up. Just me venting...here are the pix

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    10-25-2013, 12:23 AM
It doesn't look to me like you're having a "too wide/not wide enough" problem. What it looks like to me is that there isn't enough rocker in the bars for her back and the tree is bridging (putting all the pressure on the very front and very back of the bars instead of all along their length).

I'd venture a guess that this mare is at least slightly swaybacked. Is that what you're using the shims to correct?
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    10-27-2013, 11:48 AM
No she is not swaybacked but she is a tad butt high and somewhat short back and a 17" saddle doesn't help. Not using the new saddle again, yesterday hubby used the Crates with my 7/8 5-star and used 2 shims in the front of a thinline on top. On the search for a saddle that will fit her. Maybe I can take a pic of her today from the side.
    10-27-2013, 12:11 PM
Again the spots behind her shoulders are from the Crates and the other 3 from the Dakota, may be more like too much rock.
    10-27-2013, 12:27 PM
Don't believe everyone who tells you they are a saddlefitter, especially if a salesman also. Either talk to a saddlemaker (most have websites) or ask for credentials that they are a Master Saddle Fitter. As for the saddle with the 17" seat, check to see if the bars go past the last true rib. I use chalk to find the rib about mid way down then draw a line straight up. If the bar crosses the line the saddle is too long.
    12-04-2013, 08:47 PM
Good idea Saddlebag, I will try the chalk. I have contacted Kevin from Southern Trails, but will wait until spring now that the winter coat has come in.
    12-05-2013, 04:56 PM
Originally Posted by garlicbunny    
... but will wait until spring now that the winter coat has come in.
I don't like to butt in to a conversation, but was just concerned you realise that while white marks are most usually simply hair damage (killing the hair cell itself, which should eventually grow back the correct colour), extended use of saddles that cause such problems can eventually damage (permanent white hair) or kill (bare patches) the follicles themselves, cause thickening (scarring) in the underlying skin and muscle tissues, and if continued over a long period potentially cause more serious physical and temperamental issues.

But I'm sure you knew that :)

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