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post #11 of 14 Old 06-11-2013, 08:30 PM
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Question for Saddlebag (ie please share your knowledge).

I don't think you meant that Stubbens are low-end saddles. I'm thinking you meant that these particular Stubbens are lower-end Stubbens? Now I know the Siegfried is not a low-end Stubben, so this one is? Is it different than most Stubbens because it's one of the Irish-made ones? I know that the German ones are the original and the best (best craftsmanship, materials, and incredibly solid). I've ridden in both the German and Swiss ones, and I like both. I have not used an Irish one. Were they made differently with different materials? Now that you point out the stirrup bar, I noticed it too. I have not seen a Stubben saddle with a stirrup-bar like that before. The ones I've used have all had a slight brassy color to them, they turn greenish when they oxidize, and polish up mighty fine.

Can you share what you know about the differences in the quality of the various Stubbens?

Also a question on the mold. I've seen plenty of the white, flaky mold that's so common especially between the flaps, which is pretty easy to clean up. Are you saying this could be the notorious, dreaded, toxic BLACK mold? Wow. Is that common on a saddle? Is it a suede thing?
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Question for Saddlebag (ie please share your knowledge).

I don't think you meant that Stubbens are low-end saddles. I'm thinking you meant that these particular Stubbens are lower-end Stubbens? Now I know the Siegfried is not a low-end Stubben, so this one is? Is it different than most Stubbens because it's one of the Irish-made ones? I know that the German ones are the original and the best (best craftsmanship, materials, and incredibly solid). I've ridden in both the German and Swiss ones, and I like both. I have not used an Irish one. Were they made differently with different materials? Now that you point out the stirrup bar, I noticed it too. I have not seen a Stubben saddle with a stirrup-bar like that before. The ones I've used have all had a slight brassy color to them, they turn greenish when they oxidize, and polish up mighty fine.

Can you share what you know about the differences in the quality of the various Stubbens?

Also a question on the mold. I've seen plenty of the white, flaky mold that's so common especially between the flaps, which is pretty easy to clean up. Are you saying this could be the notorious, dreaded, toxic BLACK mold? Wow. Is that common on a saddle? Is it a suede thing?
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I've never heard of a 'lower end' Stubben, and Siegfrieds have been one of the most popular models since they were introduced. I'm honestly surprised that Stubben would allow their name on an inferior product, if that's truly the case.

Mine is a vintage Swiss made Siegfried, and one of these days I'm hoping to run across a lovingly maintained German made. I did find one, but the saddle had been made for a man and the seat size was humongous.

I've also not heard of black mold invading saddles. White mold absolutely, but I've not run across any saddle that carried black mold spores. Those are generally found in constantly wet areas.

The cracks in the leather on the underside of the seat on the Kerry concern me. That indicates it wasn't properly cared for and the skins were allowed to dry out, similar to dry rot. Conditioning it may help but those cracks aren't going away, and the leather will always be compromised in that area.

The suede panels on the Siegfried look to be in bad shape, but the rest of the saddle looks pretty good. All of the older models had the suede panels, mine included. If I were to buy it I'd have those panels covered over with smooth leather, as I don't believe the suede is salvageable.

Either saddle is an okay buy, but the Kerry looks to have been cared for a bit better than the Siegfried, at least on the topside.
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Speed Racer, I'm looking daily for a couple of old Stubbens for my husband and sister-in-law right now. If I stumble across a German-made one I'll let you know. What seat and tree size? I think I remember you mentioning 18" in some post long long ago? You're looking for the trusty old Siegfried, right?
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