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post #21 of 31 Old 09-27-2009, 07:12 PM
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but his bridle is a $400+ CWD...and I can't afford a matching noseband ;)
LOL! Cute CJ8.

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post #22 of 31 Old 09-27-2009, 07:31 PM
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LOL! Cute CJ8.
haha I know right? It's snug enough that it doesn't fall off, but let's just say that I can take both his bridles off w/o undoing either part of the fig 8 (his old schooling bridle is a lovely crosby that I adore and do not want to replace b/c the leather is like butter....though it's going to fall apart soon and im going to have to lol)

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post #23 of 31 Old 09-27-2009, 07:40 PM
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I use a flash because essentially my horse's bit is a tad bit too big (like by 1/4") so it helps her keep the bit in place. She doesn't really go well without it. But it's pretty loose, just enough to keep the bit in place but not enough to inhibit any sort of movement in her mouth

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post #24 of 31 Old 09-27-2009, 09:31 PM
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Personally... I use a flash.
I use it because I feel it works-- however I am getting to the point where I almost no longer need it.
My horse is a thoroughbred-- off the track-- and was taught to lean on their riders hands. They also sometimes pick up habits like opening their mouths and grabbing bits.
I don't use a flash for leaning-- I have taught him to use his hindquarters and engage the rest of his body... but I DO use it so I don't have to worry about him grabbing the bit or moving it and getting it under his tongue. (strange... how DO horses do that? Haha)

Everyone has their own opinions, and personally, if used right it can be used as a helpful piece of equipment. :)
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post #25 of 31 Old 09-27-2009, 11:13 PM
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I don't use one. I figure if I have to use a leather strap to keep my horse's mouth closed, I'm probably not doing a great job of training him to be a supple horse. It's pretty hard to find a bridle without one these days.
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post #26 of 31 Old 09-28-2009, 01:49 AM
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I could find a picture of ALL the top riders , the Whittakers , Beerbaums , Mclain Ward etc-etc-etc , using a Flash noseband at some time or other on their horses - are all those that say that if you use a flash you need to re-train yourself and your horse going to say that of them ?

I would like to hear someone say that to Meredith Michaels Beerbaum about herself and Shutterfly.

Oh look here they are - any comments ?
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post #27 of 31 Old 09-28-2009, 04:38 AM
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Just like martingales they make NO difference on my horse. Cougar has snapped ever sort of tie down imaginable. He has yet to snap a flash but he certainly isn't relaxed wearing one. What worked best for him was go back to teaching him like a NOOB. He wasn't evading to be a jerk. He didn't know any better. So for us it was a hole in his training (and mine).

I think they look smart though.
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Maybe someone can clarify for me, but I was always under the impression (what I was taught at PC/Riding School) that Cavesson nose bands were purely for atheistic reasons, unless they were used to anchor the flash? Is this wrong? People in this thread seem to be saying that they are used to force the mouth closed.

I used a grackle cross country and it really helped. I never really liked the idea of buckling the mouth shut unless it was really needed.
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- A cavesson noseband originally had two purposes -- one is for looks / purely asthetic - the other is to act as an anchor point for a Standing martingale .

The Flash and Crank nosebands are more recent variations of the cavesson but not part of the original design.
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I Would Never Use Any Piece Of Tack I don't Need. I No Longer Need The Flash Because Oscar Has Stopped Tanking Off On Me. I Use The Martingale Because If I Go Without It He Puts The Head Up In The Air When He Gets Excited Like AT A Show Or With Other Horses Around And He Tanks Off And I've No Control

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