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    10-11-2011, 08:05 PM
Originally Posted by Buckcherry    
No the problem is covering up problems with stronger bits.
No offense, but you speak like someone who does not understand the action, proper usage, effects, and tradition associated with all of the bits the OP posted. Used appropriately, all are very fine pieces of equipment.
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    10-11-2011, 10:20 PM
No I understand them just fine. I disagree with people correcting problems by changing bits.
    10-11-2011, 10:53 PM
I don't see anything wrong with changing the bits. We change bits all the time at our barn. Horses can get desensitized to the same bit and may need a more severe or different bit for tweaking/training

For example: We have a quarter horse who is <usually> light and supple in the mouth and goes nicely in a D-ring snaffle. Sometimes he can a little strong and and needs tweaking, so we put him in a twisted wire bit for a few training sessions and it brings him back down and he gets lighter in the mouth. When we put the snaffle back on him, he's lighter and easier. We don't jam on his mouth with the twisted bit in...or rely on it to "fix" underlying issues...or any of that...its just a tool we use to get him to where he needs to be.

He can also get stong and full of himself on trail. He has the "I need to be first" mindset and gets competitive with the other horses sometimes (nothing violent, he just tries to pass them, lol). When he is in a D ring snaffle on trail he sometimes doesn't listen and can pull right through your arms to try to get to the top position in the herd. This can be a struggle when trying to do a collected canter on trail.....enter the elevator bit. It's still a snaffle which he likes, but we can adjust the reins for more or less leverage on his face. He listens better and is much lighter out on trail with the elevator bit on.

3 bits, one works.
    10-11-2011, 11:08 PM
No 3 bits for one horse =holes in training
    10-11-2011, 11:27 PM
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A horse can have multiple bits. For example higher level western horses are trained in snaffles (and still worked in them) however most are shown in curb bits. Those horses are trained very well (most anyways) and they still use atleast 2 differnet bits. My trainer rides her barrel horse for warm up in a full cheek snaffle but runs him in a short shank gag bit but he can turn around and be used for heeling in a snaffle.
    10-11-2011, 11:27 PM
Originally Posted by Buckcherry    
No 3 bits for one horse =holes in training
How in the world do you figure this? Right here, this tells me you don't understand the function, action, or proper usage of bits.
    10-11-2011, 11:56 PM
Im going to agree to disagree. I understand just fine but I don't agree
    10-12-2011, 12:06 AM
I'm just going to pop in and say that, at least at Arabian shows, you're required to show in a double bridle for saddleseat. We have horses that show saddleseat but also may, for example, trail ride on weekends. It's ridiculous to say that the difference in a simple snaffle for trail rides, and the curb/snaffle used for showing, means the horse has holes in its training. Using different bits doesn't necessarily mean that some are harsher than others. Different bits are used for different things sometimes.
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    10-12-2011, 12:15 AM
It's all about being open minded. Just use whatever works for you. While some people see nothing wrong with use of multiple bits, others say that it shows holes in training. I think that every horse is different and no two people train the same. As long as the horse goes well, respects the rider, and likes his job....use whatever means necessary to get the result you are looking for. There's no right or wrong answer here. If your bits are working for you, by God use them! If they aren't...then find a trainer you like and respect and ask for help.

And as for the " a more severe bit is used to cover up holes in training" horse rides in a long shank mullen mouth pelham (with a curb chain and double reins) but that doesn't mean I'm a crappy rider. I bought him as an 8 year old, sent him to training for a month, and was advised to use a strong bit because he likes a lot of contact and really respects it. In a snaffle he gets sloppy and lazy but in the pelham he's a beautiful works for us and that's all that matters.


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    10-12-2011, 12:52 AM
Originally Posted by Buckcherry    
No 3 bits for one horse =holes in training
Can you please state how she is demonstrating holes in the horses training?

I don't see it like that at all, she is using different bits for different needs/purposes. If I had a dressage horse who competes in a double bridle, I would not put that on for a simple hack out in the woods.
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