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    06-14-2013, 12:44 AM
  #1
Yearling
Western Bit Experts, I'm in need of some guidance.

I'm wanting to try a new bit on Sky. I currently have her in this one Western BS Dogbone Tear Drop Training Bit - Statelinetack.com, it works pretty well for what we do, which is trail riding and lessons for my 8 year old daughter. I am looking for something that would give my daughter a little more control.

Back when I first switched her from the tom thumb she came with, I was trying to decide between the dog bone and this one Western SS Low Port Futurity Bit - Statelinetack.com. I had heard good things about both of them, as far as how severe they were, in this case, not very. I obviously chose the dog bone, but for no other reason other than I needed to choose one. So now I'm wondering if this one might give me that little extra I'm looking for.

I've talked to my daughters instructor about changing bits if need be when my daughter first started. She said possibly something with longer shanks if needed, but nothing was ever said about it again. I've been looking and I keep coming back to this bit Western SS Copper Bar Correction Training Bit - Statelinetack.com . The reviews are really good and I know that my daughter's instructor uses a similar bit on her lesson pony that my daughter rides.

Any thoughts on these bits or one that could possibly work better?
     
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    06-14-2013, 12:51 AM
  #2
Banned
Your links are not working. Also, when you say 'control' what do you mean? Is the horse running through the bit? Leaning on the current bit?
     
    06-14-2013, 01:04 AM
  #3
Started
Wow, your thoughts today and my late day are well, pretty much what I did for 3hrs.

Firstly, a correction is just that. And not a bit to be ridden in regularly (good hands yes, 8yr olds no) and should be used with caution. A heavy hand on a sketchy horse could be disastrous.

The dog bone, yes, that's a good option.

Another good option is a jr cowhorse.

I honestly JUST went through this a few hours ago. Minus the futurity bit. Wasn't fun, but, we think we figured it out.
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    06-14-2013, 01:31 AM
  #4
Weanling
Personally, I wouldn't touch the correction. Like Phly said it's something to be used every now and then for some fine tuning. Not something I'd let a young kid ride in since they haven't yet developed the "finesse" a bit like that will require. The correction will give a LOT of whoa. Which to me doesn't sound like something the horse needs. I'd give the Futurity bit a try. It's got the mouthpiece style to Myler bits which I really like. I actually just bought my mare something similar to try as a transition curb IF we do western pleasure this year. A lot of people seem to like Billy Allen bits as well. I'm not familiar with them, but it sounds like they're very similar to Myler style but cheaper.

Best advice I can give is try a few different styles out and see what gives you that little extra "whoa." Correction is definitely not the route I'd personally go in this situation as you might get TOO much whoa.
     
    06-14-2013, 01:34 AM
  #5
Trained
I concur with the Billy Allen bits. Kind and very nice.

Personally I don't let any kid out of a sidepull or a snaffle until they prove themselves, but that's just me.

Why do you feel the need to move up?
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    06-14-2013, 02:38 AM
  #6
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Muppetgirl    
Your links are not working. Also, when you say 'control' what do you mean? Is the horse running through the bit? Leaning on the current bit?
Sorry the links aren't working for you. My daughter does her lessons in our pasture, which isn't ideal, but it's all we have. Occasionally, our mare will try to walk off from the circle my daughter is working her in. It's not always easy for her to get our mare stopped and turned around because she headed for her baby that's kept in a stall at the other end of the pasture. So I guess you can call her a bit buddy sour. My daughter weighs maybe 40lbs and just doesn't have what it takes at those times.

I won't be looking twice at the correction bit, so no worries there. I just needed to be told that wasn't the way to go.

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Originally Posted by Phly    
Wow, your thoughts today and my late day are well, pretty much what I did for 3hrs.

Firstly, a correction is just that. And not a bit to be ridden in regularly (good hands yes, 8yr olds no) and should be used with caution. A heavy hand on a sketchy horse could be disastrous.

The dog bone, yes, that's a good option.

Another good option is a jr cowhorse.

I honestly JUST went through this a few hours ago. Minus the futurity bit. Wasn't fun, but, we think we figured it out.
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I definitely wouldn't say my 8 year old has good hands but she's not a jerk on the reins type of rider either. A lot of the time her reins are too slack, which is also part of the reason her cues don't get through when they really need to.

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Originally Posted by SketchyHorse    
Personally, I wouldn't touch the correction. Like Phly said it's something to be used every now and then for some fine tuning. Not something I'd let a young kid ride in since they haven't yet developed the "finesse" a bit like that will require. The correction will give a LOT of whoa. Which to me doesn't sound like something the horse needs. I'd give the Futurity bit a try. It's got the mouthpiece style to Myler bits which I really like. I actually just bought my mare something similar to try as a transition curb IF we do western pleasure this year. A lot of people seem to like Billy Allen bits as well. I'm not familiar with them, but it sounds like they're very similar to Myler style but cheaper.

Best advice I can give is try a few different styles out and see what gives you that little extra "whoa." Correction is definitely not the route I'd personally go in this situation as you might get TOO much whoa.
Whoa is actually what I'm looking for, but just a little more, not A LOT. I might just try the futurity bit.

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Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
I concur with the Billy Allen bits. Kind and very nice.

Personally I don't let any kid out of a sidepull or a snaffle until they prove themselves, but that's just me.

Why do you feel the need to move up?
I don't really feel the horse needs to move up, she's just not used to such a small person riding her and tries to get away with walking off occasionally.

This is the only Billy Allen bit Stateline Tack has, I love their prices. Is that what you're talking about? Western SS Straight Copper Roller Reining Bit - Statelinetack.com
I've seen a few people using bits like that. Would you go that route over the futurity bit?
     
    06-14-2013, 04:08 AM
  #7
Trained
Either the futurity bit or the billy allen would be fine, and yes that is the bit I am talking about. I can understand bitting up for a child, just so long as she is not pulling too much.
     

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