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post #1 of 8 Old 09-18-2011, 09:25 PM Thread Starter
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Western to English which one

Well, I am interested in getting a English saddle and learning to ride in it, would likely help balance to a degree as well. Now my thing is, I ride at a endurance pace which consist of a lot of trotting and cantering. I would need something inexpensive as i'm just learning the being on your own thing. I do like to jump logs, and I do have young horses more often than not(2yrs is my current and a 1yr old stud colt). I'm 5'5-5'6 and about 136-138lbs or in that area, I think i'm to heavy but I don't know. Again, as I said all feedback and help would be wonderful, thank you.
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post #2 of 8 Old 09-19-2011, 12:06 AM
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Too heavy? For what? Not for riding, that's for sure.

maybe a Wintec? An all purpose would be good for both jumping and trotting out over long distances, and cost very little. I don't personally like them, but a lot of people swear by them. I dont' jump, anyway.
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post #3 of 8 Old 09-19-2011, 06:51 AM
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I don't think you would want to ride all day in a jump saddle. Believe me when I say that it is a lot more strain on your knees, ankles, and feet. I like the close contact feel of an english saddle (plus the lightweight size) so I ride trails in mainly a dressage saddle. Of course if you want to do a lot of jumping stuff, maybe an all purpose would be best suited to the task.

I had and rode in wintecs for years and I can honestly say that I really don't like them. They just don't seem to fit horses right- never had one horse that liked them. I recently got a collegiate, which also has the interchangeable gullet system, and I am very satisfied with its quality, and how it fits me and the horses.

Edited to add: I think that wool panels are the way to go in saddles because you can adjust them as your horse changes vs air and foam which can't be adjusted.

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post #4 of 8 Old 09-21-2011, 11:34 AM
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I have a Wintec Dressage 500 and really like it as an all purpose sort of saddle but saddles are quite personal. There are many Wintecs and Bates, as well as many other brands, that I don't like. You just have to sit in the them to know if you like it. They aren't the best saddles by any means, but I think they are convenient and comfortable for their price range.

You could get an all purpose saddle but in your situation I'd lean towards a dressage saddle. I know a fair few endurance hobbiest who ride in synthetic dressage saddles. They aren't ideal to jump in but you can certainly do it. If you have young horses though you wouldn't be jumping for a few years anyway. One saddle doesn't fit all horses so if you have multiple horses you may need multiple saddles. You will need to get your saddle fitted to your horse. In addition, some brands may not fit you, and some brands may not fit your horse, regardless of fitting. My wintec is good with the exchangeable gullet and if a horse has a pretty even, "simple" back it can usually be made to fit which is a benefit, but it certainly doesn't work with all horses. Also, if you have sort of flat backed, barrelish horse then Wintecs have been known to slip and slide.

The best thing to do is go to a saddlery that fits saddles and organise for them to bring out a range of saddles to try for you and your horse.
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I believe you want an all purpose saddle--hard to jump in a dressage saddle AND you'll want to fit it to your horse, as Saskia has suggested. Buy it cheap bc you can ALWAYS invest in a better one later. We NEVER know where our riding fancies will take us. If you end up loving it, and then you want to show, for instance, you WILL still use your cheap one for schooling at home to prevent wear and tear on the better one--just like Western riders who show do--so it isn't a waste of your money in the long run.
Take some time at a tack shop to find out your size. You will be squished in any saddle that's too small, and you CAN ride one a size larger than your needs, BUT you will move around too much if it is several sizes larger. You sound as if you probably ride a 15" Western saddle. If so, try a 17" or a 17 1/2" English. Don't be married to the size--make sure it fits you well BEFORE you buy it. Hope this helps!
@Saskia, EVERYBODY that rides English should have a Dressage saddle. **heaven, sigh**

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If youn want an English saddle for endurance then you need something lightweight.

Consider a treeless - so long as you are not too heavy.
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post #7 of 8 Old 09-21-2011, 04:15 PM
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I love my Wintec. I feel like I could ride in it all day. It feels like a cloud.

I have the 2010 Jump, so maybe not quite ideal for you, but you may want to check out some of Wintec's AP saddles. I can't vouch for them because I have never ridden in an AP of theirs, but I love my Wintec jump.
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Thank you all, I'm hoping to trade in my old black saddle, I slide in it a great deal so its nice, I love it, but no the sliding. I prefer the barrel saddle over it, partly because its easier to keep your feet in the stirrups.... which is nice on a two year old trotter. I've used my saddles on many horses, never had a problem with them fitting, and never had a saddle fitted before so I know nothing of it. I check my trotters back before and after a ride, and pick up his feet, stretch his front legs, after every ride. My stud colt is just a yearling so he's only on the ground lessons, which involve the halter, some lounging, picking up hooves, and taking a walk with me.. and treats.. he loves his treats. Besides that, I'm wanting to learn english, and what I meant by 'jump', was jumping logs that are to big to walk nicely over, or have no way of getting around. I trot and canter a lot, but do walk... when it's warmer... walk.. lots of walk. But I figured it would also be easier on the horse to be carrying less weight. A all purpose sounds nice, and and as for jump and dressage, I'd love to learn those, then again I want to learn everything. I'll take a look around, I have a trade store near me, so I can probably get a cheap one from them to start with, and if I like I can always buy a nicer one.
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