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    04-28-2011, 09:16 PM
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Western saddle fit,pics with 2 different saddles

As i've posted before, I've been having trouble fitting Legacy for a saddle. I was going to get pics, but then the weather got cold and I just never got around to it until tonight. The first saddle we got for my gelding Blue(who is now pretty much retired), we got the saddle when we got him 13 years ago(and i'm pretty sure it was used then). The second saddle is one that a friend let me borrow to see if it fit him, it does seem to fit better then the other, but still not a great fit.
First here are some pics of him to see the shape of his back, he wouldn't let me get the camera near him(he's a chicken) so I couldn't get a front shot without the saddle.


This one probably isn't helpful but i'll post it anyway lol


And here is a video of how he moves(without a saddle)

Since I have a bunch a pics of him with each saddle I made up 2 separate albums for him with each saddle, so i'll just post the links to the albums. The first few pics are right after I put the saddle on and then there are some after I worked him a bit, you can tell each saddle has slid down after trot work. I also forgot to get pics of the second saddle without the pad

Here is the album with Blue's saddle Legacy with Blues sadde pictures by Rachel1786 - Photobucket


And with the borrowed saddle Legacy with Borrowed saddle pictures by Rachel1786 - Photobucket


Thanks for looking, My friend Jen has a saddle that she bought a few years ago and hardly used it and is willing to see it to me for 200(i helped her buy it and it was 600-900) when she brings that up to let me try it I will get some pics, but I really just need a general idea of wider, narrower, or whatnot, I know it's impossible to know for sure with pics but we don't have any saddle fitters around here so this is my only option
     
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    04-28-2011, 09:23 PM
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Both saddles need moved back at least 3 inches before a good fit is going to be achieved. The "Blues" saddle does not fit...I doubt it ever will. The second saddle is much closer but try fitting without a pad and back 3 inches. The girth should be about 3" from the elbow to free up the shoulder.
     
    04-28-2011, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by corinowalk    
Both saddles need moved back at least 3 inches before a good fit is going to be achieved. The "Blues" saddle does not fit...I doubt it ever will. The second saddle is much closer but try fitting without a pad and back 3 inches. The girth should be about 3" from the elbow to free up the shoulder.
oops, i've been riding english mainly now so it's been a while since I tacked up a horse western, it's so much easier to tell if the saddle is in the proper place english ...I'll get some pics tomorrow of the other saddle without the pad and move them back more, it just seems like they are sitting half way down the his back when they are back any more....I could tell that Blue's saddle didn't fit well at all, but I can't tell if it's too wide or too narrow, I know that seems ridiculous but it looks in some places it looks wide and some narrow to me
     
    04-28-2011, 11:04 PM
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They are both too narrow of gullet but the second one is the lesser of two evils. The angle of the tree is too narrow at top, too wide at bottom, so it sits on his shoulder but lacks support further down the tree points.

The first saddle is a no no. Very bad fit.

Why dont' you ride english? He'd look awesome huntseat.
     
    04-28-2011, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tinyliny    
They are both too narrow of gullet but the second one is the lesser of two evils. The angle of the tree is too narrow at top, too wide at bottom, so it sits on his shoulder but lacks support further down the tree points.

The first saddle is a no no. Very bad fit.

Why dont' you ride english? He'd look awesome huntseat.

Thank you, hopefully the saddle my friend is selling will fit him, it's just a matter of her getting it up here lol... I am planning on putting my dressage saddle(wintec pro dressage) on him but right now it's with my OTTB who is boarding with my riding instructor for another month or so, it has the changeable gullet so hopefully it will fit(any idea which gullet plate would fit best?) But he still needs a western, he's actually my moms horse, she's a very timid rider and has had quite a few bad experiences with horses so that horn is her safety net and she doesn't feel comfortable riding without it, I'm trying to convince her to come up with me sometime and take a lesson but she always has an excuse, one of these days i'll corner her into it lol, actually the horse(which is also the horse that my friend bought the saddle for) that we all have had a bad experience on is boarding where I take lessons ...come to think of it, Legacy and Skip are a similar build, so the saddle might fit. Oh I have a pic from when I first got him...

His withers look a tad higher, but i'm pretty sure they are about the same width, although maybe the saddle didn't fit him lol....i'll have to text Jen and see if maybe she can bring it up this weekend, if she does i'll take some pics to get some opinions
     
    04-29-2011, 08:12 AM
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I agree, both saddles are too far forward and your pad is too far back. You need pictures with his head up, in a natural position.

The first saddle isn't a bad fit, but I like the fit of the second saddle better.

Remeber, you fit the saddle to the horse's back, not his withers/shoulders. The saddle should give plenty of room for the withers under the pommel, but the fit should be from the area behind the shoulder blade (below/behind the withers) and back.
     
    04-29-2011, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by luvs2ride1979    
I agree, both saddles are too far forward and your pad is too far back. You need pictures with his head up, in a natural position.

The first saddle isn't a bad fit, but I like the fit of the second saddle better.

Remeber, you fit the saddle to the horse's back, not his withers/shoulders. The saddle should give plenty of room for the withers under the pommel, but the fit should be from the area behind the shoulder blade (below/behind the withers) and back.

I will get some better pics this weekend, he was being a bit of a jerk(scared of the camera). I kept trying to get his head up but by the time I get back far enough to take the pic his head would be down again, I'll either get someone to hold him or tie him higher when I get pics again, he also reared(more of a little hop) a little when the evil camera got too close to his face which kinda shifted things and I forgot to fix them because I was getting a tad annoyed with him and his silliness at that point....i know the saddle is supposed to fit their back, but with a western saddle how can you tell if it fits, I can tell if it doesn't fit in the wither/shoulders, can't tell ya why it doesn't tho lol, but I just can't tell along the back because you can't see, ugh I really wish there was a saddle fitter around here
     
    05-30-2011, 07:18 PM
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So I never got better pics of that saddle, but I did borrow another saddle, it seems to fit better. I am not very good at judging saddle fit tho, unfortunately I didn't get very good pics but hopefully they will give you an idea of better or worse.This saddle was a saddle from a pay to ride trail place where my friend used to work and bought her horse from so they gave her the saddle when she left. I really like the saddle, it's very comfortable.


















     
    06-01-2011, 10:41 PM
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Bump for new saddle please!
Without the pad I don't like the way it sits on his back, it looks like maybe the tree doesn't have enough curve to it maybe, like it kinda digs in in the back, but it looks pretty good with the pad, I think? Please someone give opinions
     
    06-02-2011, 01:56 AM
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I think you are developing a good eye. When I saw the first photo from the front angle I thouught , "hm m m, this one seems to have a pretty good line following the barrel and has opening for the shoulder" But when I saw it from the side, I thought that maybe it might not have enough rocker (curve) in it, just exactly as YOU thoughtl. (good for you!)
I will tell you that it's not a very well made saddle and the placement of the cinch ring is such that your fender will catch on it if you swing you leg forward of back, like if he start to buck a little, you leg will catch onthe ring and be not good.

Look at the saddle that Chele is trying to sell. It is a pretty well made saddle, but it's onnly a 15 inch. Would that work for you?
     

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