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post #1 of 13 Old 07-21-2012, 09:42 AM Thread Starter
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Western Show People: Kimberwick?

Hey all! I'm taking my friend's gelding to the Fair next week, and I've decided to enter him in the Novice Western Walk/Trot class. (This is an old OTTB, one eye, trained for eventing, so I figure we're going for the entertainment factor, rather than ever having a prayer of placing, lol). He does just fine in a western saddle, but he's never really been trained for western, so his jog isn't really a jog. Anywho, that doesn't matter cause...: I've been trying to find a western short shanked snaffle and I've been failing miserably. (He's 24yrs so we can't really pretend he's 5yrs and get away with a non-shanked snaffle). It's for next weekend. Ick.
Anywho, does anyone know if kimberwicks are legal in western showing? I'm assuming not, but just in case...
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post #2 of 13 Old 07-21-2012, 10:31 AM
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No, I highly doubt you would be able to show in one. You can always call the show management and ask or ride with your number flipped (entering the class but not being judged/placed).
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post #3 of 13 Old 07-21-2012, 10:36 AM
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No you can't show in a kimberwick.. Can you use a normal curb on this horse?

Horses are scared of two things... Things that move and things that don't.
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post #4 of 13 Old 07-21-2012, 11:27 AM Thread Starter
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Lol, I asked last year to ride with my number flipped, and they stared at me like I was nuts and said," I've never heard of that..." Go figure. :S
Anywho, I do have a heavy 8" medium port w/ copper roller that I used to use on an old walker, that I might end up trying for him, but he's never used a curb before, and I really don't like using them either. The show arena is about 10 feet from a busy freight train railroad track, and there's usually 50 horses packed into the arena, and I'm not sure how well that would go in a curb...
Any ideas on where to pick up a cheap shanked snaffle? My onlines sites are msotly for english stuff. :)
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[QUOTE=rascalboy;1608480] Anywho, I do have a heavy 8" medium port w/ copper roller that I used to use on an old walker, that I might end up trying for him, but he's never used a curb before, and I really don't like using them either. QUOTE]

Do Not put that bit in that old TB's mouth!!!
Disasterous and overly severe!
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post #6 of 13 Old 07-21-2012, 11:54 AM Thread Starter
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My goodness, you'd have thought I just admitted to stealing the cookies from the cookie jar or something!
I'm not sure how this bit
qualifies as "Disasterous and overly severe! "...? It is what a normal western horse could be expected to use, hardly this:

Or this:

Does anyone know if sidepulls are allowed in competition? Bosals are only for 5yrs and under, right? I guess I'll go haunt ebay again. :)
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post #7 of 13 Old 07-21-2012, 12:26 PM Thread Starter
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Good news! According to the AQHA Handbook, horses showing in a Novice Amateur (I'm assuming my class counts as Amateur) class may use a snaffle and may ride two-handed.
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post #8 of 13 Old 07-23-2012, 12:17 AM
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The problem is, the fair might not use AQHA rules. You should contact the person in charge and ask if your class counts as an amateur class.
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post #9 of 13 Old 07-23-2012, 12:29 AM
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But, a kimberwicke is NOT a snaffle. Anything with a curb chain is a leverage bit (even though a slight leverage, in this instance), not a snaffle.
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post #10 of 13 Old 07-23-2012, 08:00 PM
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The curb chain doesn't make it a leverage bit, the shanks do. The longer the shank, the more the pressure of the reins is multiplied. A kimberwicke has shanks so short they don't even look like shanks, but they are.

I've seen plenty of Western folks use a leather curb strap on a snaffle (actual snaffles, not curbs with broken mouthpieces). It doesn't produce any leverage; it's just there to keep the bit from sliding through the horse's mouth.
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