By the way, if you use a flank cinch, you tighten the flank cinch FIRST. Of course, you do up the front cinch, then the flank cinch, but you finish the tightening of the flank cinch before the front. AND, the flank cinch should not hang down a several inches off the horse's belly. It should be in contact with tension. It will,cof course, loosen once you mount, just like the front cinch will.