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    03-19-2011, 05:24 PM
  #1
Foal
What bit should i use on my 5 year old pony who is spooky and is strong when bolts?

Hi!

I am really struggling to find the correct bit for my pony who is 13 hh and 5 years old - he is good to ride - just spooks at quite a lot - he also pulls his head about a bit and shakes too - just today he bolted and I had no control - I could not stop him! Do you know what bit I should use?
     
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    03-19-2011, 05:36 PM
  #2
Green Broke
I would use a regular simple snaffle. I would also do more ground work to earn more trust. Flexing your horse will help make him more supple. Undersaddle I would do a lot of one rein stops.

Do not just go to a harsher bit to fix what he is missing in training. He will only get a harder mouth and you'll have to keep getting harsher bits than the one before. If you do not know how to work your horse on the ground to get respect, get help from a trainer.
     
    03-19-2011, 07:06 PM
  #3
Green Broke
I agree, more training. Teach him to disengage his hind quarters and execute a 1-rein halt. I would use a full cheek french link, so you have more turning power. Also teach him to round his neck and back, and give to bit pressure.

If you are determined to ride him on the trail or out of the arena before you solve this issue, I would use a low port kimberwicke, but ONLY for work outside the arena. You need to teach him to pay attention to his rider and give to the bit willingly, which you won't be able to accomplish with a bigger bit. You'll only give him the oppotunity to learn how to evade and run off with more bit .

I would also look at his diet. Diet plays a big role in horse behavior. Make sure he's on no grain, or a small amount of low starch pellets or a ration balancer. If he's on alfalfa hay, switch him to a "calmer" hay like Timothy or Bermuda. Make sure he gets at least 6 hours of turnout a day, preferably 24/7. If he's on lush early spring pasture, consider a grazing muzzle.
     
    03-19-2011, 08:12 PM
  #4
Trained
I'll recommend learning the pulley stop:


Start viewing at 4:00 minutes. It works with my horses using a rope halter...
     
    03-19-2011, 08:50 PM
  #5
Green Broke
One of my pet peeves, about the video (nothing to do with the pully rein). Julie says she likes the rider's legs. Her leg is too far forward! If she gets her leg back, it will unlock her hips/pelvis, and make her much more relaxed in the saddle. Julie rides the same way... Ugh.

The pulley rein can be useful, but it can make the horse afraid. Just look at the horse's face, head, neck, body, etc. in the video. That is not a happy horse... The one rein halt allows you to spin the horse to a halt without getting so in to their face. If the horse turns well, you don't even have to use much rein pressure.

Here's a good one.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/fmpDSbXPtzU
     
    03-19-2011, 09:10 PM
  #6
Started
I used to do the pulley stop with my Thoroughbred, and to be perfectly honest, it just made her more bracey, and mad, and apt to either rear or buck to throw me off balance, but with the one rein stop, she didn't get upset or bracey, and it gave her a chance to stop and take a breath, as well as turn around instead of continuing down the rail or road or trail, and I could then still address whatever set her off that was right there at that particular spot. I definitely prefer the one rein stop to the pulley.
     
    03-19-2011, 09:22 PM
  #7
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Originally Posted by luvs2ride1979    
One of my pet peeves, about the video (nothing to do with the pully rein). Julie says she likes the rider's legs. Her leg is too far forward! If she gets her leg back, it will unlock her hips/pelvis, and make her much more relaxed in the saddle. Julie rides the same way... Ugh.

The pulley rein can be useful, but it can make the horse afraid. Just look at the horse's face, head, neck, body, etc. in the video. That is not a happy horse... The one rein halt allows you to spin the horse to a halt without getting so in to their face. If the horse turns well, you don't even have to use much rein pressure.

Here's a good one.

YouTube - The Power of the 'One Rein Stop'

The pulley rein (cavalry stop...emergency stop) Is far safer than the one rein stop. At speed. Pulling a horse's head around to go into a circle can cause a catastrophic fall and roll. I always go the emergency stop. Yes, the horse doesn't like it...they are not supposed to like it. That is the point. After a few uses, the horse learns to listen....trust me!
     
    03-19-2011, 09:35 PM
  #8
Green Broke
Pulley rein isn't something you use frequently. Just for emergencies. Not every time your horse is a little out of control or doesn't want to stop. Only when a horse is full out BOLTING. You shouldn't use it so often the horse gets a chance to become bracey.
     
    03-19-2011, 10:09 PM
  #9
Foal
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Originally Posted by usandpets    
I would use a regular simple snaffle. I would also do more ground work to earn more trust. Flexing your horse will help make him more supple. Undersaddle I would do a lot of one rein stops.

Do not just go to a harsher bit to fix what he is missing in training. He will only get a harder mouth and you'll have to keep getting harsher bits than the one before. If you do not know how to work your horse on the ground to get respect, get help from a trainer.
agree completely, it is not by changing the bit that the problem will be fix, in fact, you might make it worse.
More training and ground work is the key
     
    03-19-2011, 10:44 PM
  #10
Trained
One rein stops and pulley stops aren't competitors. They are BOTH good things to have in your bag of tricks when a horse is getting too wound up and spooky. If there is room to do a one rein stop, then you may not need a pulley stop. OTOH, in a narrow space, or if the horse is already in a full blown bolt, then the pulley stop can be pretty helpful. Both are better alternatives to increasing the harshness of the bit as a means of control.

I'm told a 12 year old girl owned Mia for a couple of months and then returned her (making it possible for me to buy her). Mia was so frightened of bits that I rode her for 2 years without one, and I'd GUESS the 12 year old tried using a harsher bit to get control. And it worked so well she returned the horse...
     

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