What bit for a soft mouth horse?

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    05-02-2014, 12:48 PM
Arrow What bit for a soft mouth horse?

I have a "pure" appaloosa (think he has tb thrown in there but anyways) I'm wondering if I should consider getting a new bit for him. Because when I went to go view him to try him out, he took the original owners bit easily, but when I went to go do it after we bought him, he threw his head up as high as he could and wouldnt let me get it in his mouth I had to tickle his tongue to get him to open his mouth! That makes no sense....am I using the wrong bite for him or what? I went off of an advise that the tack shop owner gave me for soft mouthed horses im currently using a curb bit on him. Don't know if its too harsh on him or what
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    05-02-2014, 01:12 PM
It's hard to say knowing nothing about the horse. Age, level of training, discipline, attitude , what he was ridden in before you bought him,stuff like that.
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    05-02-2014, 01:41 PM
Hes 10(or 11 don't know the date of birth), he's been used as a hunting horse originally, he's being used as a trail horse right now, and he has been used as a weastern pleasure horse. Currently he's being used to trail ride only but I'm going to train him to be a barrel horse. He's a sweet horse, soft mouth, and has a willing to please attitude, relaxed in calm but he does randomly spook like he'll jump but he stays in one place and doesnt move after you hit the ground. He was ridden recently but wasnt riden for a month and was still calm
    05-03-2014, 06:53 AM
It maybe the person not the bit. I would suspect that he is testing you. He probably tested last owner too - but she/he passed. Appaloosas are more intelligent than most horses. More like mules in thought patterns. I used to raise, train and show them.

In fact, my 15 year old daughter is being paid by a lady to finish out a 4 year old Appaloosa. He pulled same stunt on her as this one did to you. Since we're using the bridle he was broke out in - it was obviously not the bit.

Here's what I showed daughter to do:

1. Keep halter hooked around neck.
2. Standing on left side of horse, curl right arm under. Place right hand halfway up nose holding the headstall. This way you control head movement.
3. With left hand, slide jointed bit (this was a snaffle) in from side of mouth behind front teeth.
4. Soon as bit is in, keep tension on headstall with right hand by sliding hand quickly up and over right ear.
5. Follow suit with left ear.

Once she learned to be quick and efficient, she hasn't needed my help bridling him again.
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    05-03-2014, 01:12 PM
Ah ok :) thanks
    05-03-2014, 02:24 PM
Green Broke
I agree that he is Testing you and it's not the bit. Unless the new bit is harsher than what he was used to. Even then, if you keep your hands soft, it shouldn't make that much difference.

I know different people use different techniques to putting a bridle on. I hold the bridle with my right hand holding the pole band and support the bit with my left. I also have my right arm going over their neck and not under.

Now you may say that way won't work because he brings his head up. You should teach him to keep his head down and bring it towards you to the side. That is a submissive position for them.
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    05-03-2014, 02:59 PM
How do I get him to keep his head in the submissive position?
    05-03-2014, 04:03 PM
Oh The joys of Appys. Mine did the same thing. She bridled fine for me for the first week or 2 after I got her then all he'll went loose. She would throw her head and even went as far as rearing on me once. Here's what I did. I made sure I was in an open area and left her halter on for bridling also not tied to anything. I started with getting her to lower her head by putting pressure on the top of her head. Then released and praise. Kept repeating until she would hold her head down for me for a long period. Now once that was good, I got the bridle out. I would put it up to her mouth and the min she threw her head I grabbed the lead rope and put her to work. Hence why I left the halter on. Made her back up fast and hard. I kept doing this until she would let me bridle her nicely. Now she bridles like a charm. I but the bridle up to her mouth and say open and she opens.
    05-03-2014, 04:05 PM
To answer your last question. With you right hand holding the top of the bridle, put your arm through his ears holding he bridle. Put a little pressure with your forearm between his hears so he knows to keep his head there. He should figure out that once your arm is there he's not allowed to raise his head.

If you are worried about it being the bit, call the old owner and ask them what's they used or have them send a pic of it.
    05-03-2014, 11:15 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by xXWhyKnotRanchXx    
how do I get him to keep his head in the submissive position?
Here's a good video showing close to what I do:
The main difference is that instead of using my left hand to bring his head over, I use my right hand. If you feel below their ears, there's a soft spot behind the bone. I push my finger into that soft spot until they bring their head over. Basically the same concept as the nerve on their nose.

I actually do the same procedure when haltering and training to be haltered. That way when the time comes to bridle, they already know how to bring their head over and down and keep it there.
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