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post #1 of 12 Old 09-19-2013, 06:21 PM Thread Starter
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Question What Bitless should I use to Jump in?

What bitless bridle to you recommend jumping in?

I have a keen pony that is scared of his mouth. If I take a slight pull her freaks out and sometimes takes off with me. I am trying to fix the problem, but he needs milage so I want to keep competing him. I want to put him in a bitless so that he can be happy and less nervous when competing, what bitless to you suggest?

*I have just recently bought this pony, it is not my doing

He can also be strong sometimes when jumping.

Also, I you have any other suggestion they are more than welcome!
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post #2 of 12 Old 09-19-2013, 06:29 PM
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I wouldn't jump him until I made significant progress in his training issues. If he doesn't understand bit cues, I'd hire a trainer to do this sort of work with him:



If he knows but refuses to obey, I'd work him at a walk at stopping with 100% effort each time, then do the same at a trot. Bitless isn't the answer unless he has some serious mouth injuries.
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He knows what the bit is and has been trained to obey it. He demonstrates this in his flat work. He goes on the bit and is working correctly through his back and everything.

He isa in secure horse and I realise that this comes down to trust, that's waht I'm hoping to do. I want to give him more confidence when jumping basically
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Then what did you mean by this: "If I take a slight pull her freaks out and sometimes takes off with me. I am trying to fix the problem, but he needs milage so I want to keep competing him."

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He has been beaten up and ripped in the mouth. If he does something wrong, like try to go off track, and you try to pull him back on track he freaks out and takes off because he knows that he's in trouble. But if you just ride him at home and he stays on track he does as he is told. He also freaks out if I try to take a jersey or jacket off when I am on him (he tries to take off). He is very suspicious and in secure
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I'm not a pro horse trainer, I don't compete, etc. But your last description sounds like a horse whose confidence is based on the arena walls, not you. I'd start by walking him on a lead rope out & about, getting him used to following you. Then I'd start making short trips out of the arena, preferably with another horse. I would then work up to short solo trips out & about. I would also make the arena the place of work.

I would not go bitless. Playing with the bit, or a bit with a roller, can help calm a nervous horse and remind him you are there.

If it was his mouth, he'd be like that all the time.
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would try him in an English hackamore (one with short shanks) see how you get on at home on the flat then hacking about in the countryside would think if he goes good in the arena and out and if you feel comfortable jump him at home if he's comfortable and you are take him to a show and see what he's like American gags are more servere they have much longer shanks and can't see if yours can be abit funny would take to that.. might be wrong of course don't know your horse
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Thanks, I have got him in a copper roller bit at the moment and I am working on getting his trust. Bsms, you could be right, considering he always has his eyes on stalks for other horses!
Thanks Steff, I might give it a go!
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Sounds like this horse has holes in his training, not in need of a bitless bridle. He likely needs a trainer.
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what happens if you just keep in what you have keep your rein contact very soft? I did have a horse too hard a check she would nearly sit down with you! But actually very easy to jump kept your contact very soft don't half halt till the turn, concentrate on just keeping your rythem she was a selle francies very sensitive in the mouth but very easy to ride if you knew how to ride her.. rode her in a plain loose ring snaffle never a hackamore btw ;)
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