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    01-10-2011, 10:26 PM
  #1
Weanling
What do you think of this bit?

I just missed out on a beautiful eggbutt Herm Sprenger snaffle that sold for only $16, and I'm kicking myself. So I've started looking at other options.

I guess I'm looking to try a different bit for my mare for trail riding. Not necessarily stronger - just different. She likes to get a little strong. In an arena, all I need is my french-link D-ring, but she used to race on turf and the only place I have to trailride her right now is a mostly flat HUGE grassy field, so I think she has flashbacks. She does okay in the french link, I just want to explore my options. I doubt she'll care.

I've never seen a bit look quite like this. How do you think it might be different than a plain snaffle?

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    01-10-2011, 10:31 PM
  #2
Yearling
Well, first and foremost, the severity of any bit lies in the hands of the rider. That being said, if you have strong heavy hands, that twisted wire has the potential to be quite severe on the horses tongue.
     
    01-10-2011, 10:37 PM
  #3
Showing
I don't understand the purpose of that bit. The twisted portion is inside the mouth, and therefore it irritates the tongue only, instead of inflicting pain both on the inside and corners of the mouth. The nutcracker action of the bit, and it being twisted perhaps adds a bit more discomfort for the horse. At any rate, it's not something I would put in my horse's mouth.
     
    01-10-2011, 10:41 PM
  #4
Weanling
I know. I also know that horses can like particular bits better than others. Like I said, this would be an experiment and a situational (trailriding) bit. I'd say I'm a pretty empathetic rider, but everyone likes to think that.

I guess that bit seem unusual because normally the entire bit is twisted or the outside is, not the inside.
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    01-10-2011, 10:42 PM
  #5
Weanling
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Originally Posted by JustDressageIt    
I don't understand the purpose of that bit. The twisted portion is inside the mouth, and therefore it irritates the tongue only, instead of inflicting pain both on the inside and corners of the mouth. The nutcracker action of the bit, and it being twisted perhaps adds a bit more discomfort for the horse. At any rate, it's not something I would put in my horse's mouth.
Thanks. I was just curious. Do you have any other suggestions?
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    01-10-2011, 10:53 PM
  #6
Showing
Yep, training. A horse that gets strong needs to learn how to stay soft and supple outside of its home arena. No bit is going to replace training. Well, it might, but then 1) you'll be controlling your horse with pain and 2) you'll just be looking for a more severe bit when this one "stops working." Your time and energy is much, much better spent with suppling exercises and learning to control your horse's shoulder, rib, and haunches.
     
    01-10-2011, 11:01 PM
  #7
Weanling
While she's not perfect, she doesn't get strong in the arena because she knows there's no where to go. Like I said, she's an OTTB that raced on turf and that's where I'm riding her. The wide open space seems to give her flashbacks. Also, I said I was looking for something different but not necessarily stronger. I'm considering a Waterford as it might give her even less to brace against. I know equipment is not a substitute for training, but I don't think that's really the issue here.
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    01-10-2011, 11:02 PM
  #8
Green Broke
If you want just a bit more "umph," you might consider a true Dr Bristol instead of the french link. The DRB puts extra pressure on the tougne when you pull back, but the pressure on the bars of the mouth should be about the same.

A true dr bristol has a wide middle piece that is flat and angled. Like these:
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A 2-ring gag would give you a but more stopping power as well, without it being harsh on the mouth itself. I would ride in the arena a few times first though, to let her get used to the gag action.
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    01-10-2011, 11:09 PM
  #9
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Romantic Lyric    
While she's not perfect, she doesn't get strong in the arena because she knows there's no where to go. Like I said, she's an OTTB that raced on turf and that's where I'm riding her. The wide open space seems to give her flashbacks. Also, I said I was looking for something different but not necessarily stronger. I'm considering a Waterford as it might give her even less to brace against. I know equipment is not a substitute for training, but I don't think that's really the issue here.
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I have been in your shoes. I had an OTTB I could jump 3'6"-4' in the arena in nothing but a loose ring snaffle, but for trail riding, he went in a mullen mouth pelham with double reins, lol. No amount of training will get the "run" out of some TBs. He got better over time, but I wouldn't have been able to trail ride him at all without a bigger bit. He would come back to me in his loose ring, but it was a battle. With the pelham, I just had to close my fingers on the reins and he was right back to me.
     
    01-10-2011, 11:14 PM
  #10
Showing
I really like pelham bits, they allow you to ride on the snaffle rein until you need just that little tweak of "hey, listen up."
     

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