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    11-06-2012, 10:20 PM
  #11
Foal
I've only been riding for 5 years so probably not considered experienced. I am really comfortable with working with horses tho and my 3yo. Lol and I really don't know anything about a hackamore except that it doesn't have a bit. Well my birthday and Christmas are coming up so I'll definitely be asking for those (: in the meantime I think I'll check the library and youtube. It's so nice to meet someone who's pro hackamore lol
     
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    11-06-2012, 10:30 PM
  #12
Yearling
If it’s for you, and sure, it sure isn’t for everyone, but if hackamore training horses is something you like, I would encourage you 1,000,000% to go and learn, be a sponge and soak up every bit of it you can; one of the most rewarding things I ever did in my life. And don’t worry about experience, I mean that in the sense that we all have to start somewhere. You just read that Connell book and you will already be ahead of what I knew about hackamores when I first started on it.
     
    11-06-2012, 10:42 PM
  #13
Foal
I love it! And I think it would be awesome if I could get good at it. My horse seems happy with it too (: I've had no problems with her yet. I really wanna order that book now! Lol but I've been buying a ton of stuff so not sure I can just yet.
     
    11-06-2012, 10:56 PM
  #14
Yearling
The companion to the hackamore book by Ed Connell is called Reinsman of the West: Bridles and Bits. It’s the second part of the process of going from the hackamore to the bridle. I just brought up the website you can get them from for you http://www.hackamore-reinsman.com/ed_connell/index.html talks a bit about the guy himself too.
As for your horse liking it, well most of the horses I have trained in the last, hell, maybe 18 years, I have hackamore trained at least to get them started, and I haven’t found one to not like it, what you do with the gear will dictate how well they like something generally speaking. But I have been pretty lucky in getting to deal with good well bred horses. I would however warn that I don’t think just any horse will make a good hackamore horse, I guess they all have the potential, but I have met a few I just got a funny feeling off and didn’t trust so stuck with a snaffle bit. Could have been more me than the horse, but there have been a few I had the feeling just wouldn’t respect a hackamore and run straight through it if they had the chance. (having said that the only time I ever had a horse bolt on me it was when I rode some guy’s horse in Jordan; he was in a curb bit and pulling those reins didn’t make a dent in his speed, so they can run away with you in anything really).
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    11-06-2012, 11:46 PM
  #15
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by OnlySamwise    
I've only been riding for 5 years so probably not considered experienced. I am really comfortable with working with horses tho and my 3yo. Lol and I really don't know anything about a hackamore except that it doesn't have a bit. Well my birthday and Christmas are coming up so I'll definitely be asking for those (: in the meantime I think I'll check the library and youtube. It's so nice to meet someone who's pro hackamore lol
Don't worry about inexperience. My kids rode bosal horses. They started six BLM feral horses in bosals when they were aged 11 to 17, and weren't real handy then, yet.

I know a guy whose mare is probably 14 and he never progressed her past the bosal. They are where they need to be and are happy with how they work together.
     
    11-07-2012, 12:06 AM
  #16
Yearling
The martin Black book I couldn’t remember the name of is Evidence Based Horsemanship. He co-authored it with a guy called Stephen Peters. Don’t know if it’s any good, I haven’t read it, though I think I might get a copy soon, so I can’t say if I think it’s good or bad; but given that I have only agreed with, and been impressed by, the little I have seen from Martin Black I guess I’d probably like it
     
    11-07-2012, 09:44 PM
  #17
Foal
Those books look great! I can't wait to get a hold of em lol. I found Martin Black hackamores but I couldn't find any Jose Ortiz ones :/ Do you know where online sells them?
     
    11-07-2012, 10:08 PM
  #18
Yearling
Hi.
I don’t know if Ortiz has a website of his own, I have seen them around on eBay and a few other places. Here are a few links from eBay that are all pretty good looking bosals. The first three all are from the same place, I have been keeping an eye on these for a month or so now (I have fantasies about buying one or two. (yeah right, I’m an impoverished studentJ)) but they have never met the reserve price yet so I’d bet its set at about 250-300 bucks, or more.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Quality-Braided-Rawhide-Bosal-Headstall-30-plait-1-2-New-/170936240928?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc98 0b20
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Quality-Braided-Rawhide-Bosal-Headstall-Hanger-Set-36-plait-5-8-New-/181016044181?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a2565 a295
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Quality-Braided-Rawhide-Bosal-Headstall-60-plait-5-8-by-Chauca-New-/170936186554?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc97 36ba
The first one is inch on the bars so for a horse going pretty good, the other two are 5/8 inch so it’d be possible to start a horse in one of them, depending on how good you got them on the ground first would be better at first though; like this one from the same bunch:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Quality-Braided-Rawhide-Bosal-Headstall-42-plait-3-4-by-Chauca-New-/181016156529?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a2567 5971
The next ones are Ortiz bosals. Every one I have seen until recently have the same look about them with the same shaped heel knot. There are a few on eBay now that are posted as Ortiz bosals but look quite different, I guess he could make a few different styles, but a few of them just don’t look nearly as good as the others that have been up for a few years now. Id be a bit careful someone could be selling ordinary ones claiming they are Ortiz bosals, I don’t have any of his, though I have two mecates made by him, and a curb strap, and they are of the highest quality, so I’d be willing to bet his bosals are pretty good too.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jose-Ortiz-Rawhide-Braided-Bosal-2-TONE-Horse-Show-Training-Futurtiy-Show-Bit-/110974064346?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d691 d6da
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jose-Ortiz-Rawhide-Braided-Bosal-Horse-Show-Training-Futurtiy-Show-Bit-Natural-/110974064369?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d691 d6f1
Both of them are 5/8 inch by the look of them.
And finally the place I have bought a few things, they are pretty good though I think they regularly change the people they get their supply from so what they have often changes (for example I bought my spade bit from them, back then it was E Garcia making them, now its someone else), but they sell allot of Ortiz stuff. (have a look at the price difference vis--vis eBay for an Ortiz bosal).
http://www.hitchingpostsupply.com/group.asp?grp=84
     
    11-08-2012, 02:04 PM
  #19
Foal
Oh wow thank you for doing all that! Those are pretty expensive but my hubby says if I need one just go ahead lol
     
    11-08-2012, 02:06 PM
  #20
Foal
Oh, and also I think I need a small size cause I have an Arabian
     

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