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    10-09-2010, 01:17 PM
Green Broke
what kind of bit is this?

Most of you who know my story know that I got into horseback riding the WRONG way. My parents thought hey let's get a horse and my stepdad fixed someone heat and they couldn't pay so they traded us un unbroke pasture puff mustang. I was 15 at the time and I broke her myself. After having never rode a horse or knowing anything about them really. I've just been learning as I go. We first broke my horse in a straight bit as we had nothing else. Eventually we bought a 60$ headstall and a 20-30$ bit and we looked for something pretty (bah Bad!) and now I am wondering what exactly the bit is that she uses. I know it's a dog bone snaffle and it has 3 copper rings on it that are honey flavored. But is it a mild bit? Is a shank bit? Should I even be using this bit? I've been using it for almost 2 years now and it's what she works well in. But I am ust looking for opinions as I have been reading around through all the bit threads and i'm confused and I see some like I use and people say they are bad! And I worry maybe i'm using the wrong thing? Here are soem pictures of it in her mouth. And rememver the mouth piece is a dog bone snaffle with 3 copper rings on it that are honey flavored.

Another question is curb chain position. I've heard to put the chin strap where the bridle hooks the bit. And i've also heard to put it in the rings where the actualy bit part is. Which is? If I put it where the bit is it's hard to find one small enough. If I put it where the bridle goes into the bit ring I can get it where it fits with 2-3 fingers loose which is perfect in my opinion.
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    10-09-2010, 02:50 PM
bit for your mustang


INteresesting story on how you got your first horse. The bit shown in the photograph looks like some version of a Tom Thumb. You say it has a dogbone joint in the middle? It looks to be very thin and so could be really harsh if you pulled much. The curb action also adds to the harshness. That being said, if she is happy in it and you are light handed, then what the heck, go with it. You have it positioned nice and low in her mouth and it looks fine. I believe the chin strap is fastened to the ring that is actually connected to the bit itself (the mouthpiece ring). That is my understanding of this type of bit.
You might want to add a throat latch to insure the bridle doesn't get accidently pulled right off her head if it got snagged on something, but you know, that isn't necessary either.
Cute Mare.
    10-09-2010, 03:15 PM
Green Broke
Yeah I just switched to this new bridle as my older leather one was starting to tear up. And yeah it has a dog bone joint and on that joint their are 3 copper rollers. I never really thought I was super light handed but i'm definitely not heavy on the reins and jerking around. I do like to keep light contact with my horse though. As for the curb chain. I can't ever get one to fit. It's always to loose when I put it in the spot and it just flops around uselessly. When I put it on the bridle loop it falls directly where the bit loop is. Right at her chin. As for throat latch i've only ever had her rub the bridle off once and that was when she was standing tied and was scratching her head. Needless to say I had my horse loose walkign around grazing with no bridle lol she did have a throat latch on her old bridle though. But I was really looking for a 1 ear bridle and this was all I came up with. Plus I thought it was pretty neat out the bit attaches to the bridle.
    10-09-2010, 03:17 PM
Can you take a picture of the bit when it isn't in her mouth?
    10-09-2010, 03:20 PM
Green Broke
Yup sure can i'll try and see if I can do that today if we go out to the pasture.
    10-09-2010, 03:26 PM
saddle fit?

I just took another look at the photo you posted and in looking at your mare's front/side shot it looks to me that the saddle does not fit at all. If you look where the concho of the saddle is, it makes tight contact with her whither, then look farther down and it comes off her shoulder. The tree angle looks to be too flat of an angle for her very upright whithers. The whole saddle sits kind of low (tho I can't really see that part so well). If you run your flat fingers under the front edge of the saddle, I think it will feel tight at the top (like you can't even get your fingers under the edge tight) and loose at the bottom. Contact should be even and loose enough that you can fit the your finger tips to the first knuckle or so under the edge of the skirt , and then pull it from the top downward and feel that the pressure on your hand is even all the way from the top to where your hand comes out the bottom of the skirt edge.
    10-09-2010, 03:31 PM
Just looking from the shank size and position, it looks to be a pretty mild leverage bit. It would be impossible to tell much more without a picture of the mouth though so I will save further critique until you can get a pic of that.

You should really put some kind of a curb strap on there just to add some stability to the bit if nothing else. I like to be able to fit about 2 fingers under mine and yes, they do attach to the same ring as your bridle.
    10-09-2010, 03:31 PM
Green Broke
Hmm i'm not sure. It's never seemed like it doesn't fit. It is a light weight saddle with that nylon type stuff for a skirt so it bunches up easy. But I don't use that saddle anymore i've gotten a new one about a month or so ago. I did have a leather saddle that ended up being to big and sat low on her withers which caused her to buck. And I ended up having to ride bareback for most of the winter until I got me a new one i'll see if I can find a better picture of her with the saddle on and I will grab a confo pictures of her as well. She doesn't really have large withers either. As for the pressure thing I don't think any light weight saddle is like that. As it's all flimsy and not hard and stuck in a fixed palce.
    10-09-2010, 03:36 PM
Green Broke
Ok yeah. She has the curb strap now definitely. It just took me some time to find a decent one. The one I use is leather on the ends with a chain on the underside. And it makes transitions and stopping much easier with very light amount of pressure. So I am enjoying the curb strap! And here is the picture of her in the old saddle.

Confo pic

Here is the new saddle. And saddly I have no decent pictures of this on her so that's another to do with the camera lol
    10-09-2010, 06:04 PM
If you like to ride with contact, then it may be an idea to try switching to a snaffle - That bit is a curb (No matter the mouthpiece) and isn't designed to be ridden with any contact.

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