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  • M toulouse or albion
  • All purpose deep seat saddles

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    02-27-2012, 11:51 AM
  #1
Foal
What Saddle?

So I recently bought a new horse and now need to buy a saddle. I am thinking somewhere in the 800-1100 range because I am almost sure he is going to grow more in the future and so I plan on buying a nicer saddle once he fills out. I do eventing and so I am thinking about more of an all purpose/deep seat jumping saddle. At the moment he is only 3 (4 in a month)and so we are not jumping or working very hard undersaddle. He is a OTTB who fits into a medium saddle but is very narrow through the shoulders.

What I want in a saddle is:
  • Not synthetic - I never like sitting in them, despite what many people say I have never had one that fits great. I just am not a big fan.
  • Leather - Preferably leather that will soften up with regular use/oiling. For my price range I am not expecting calfskin for example but a little nicer would be good.
  • Deep seat - I ride a lot of dressage and I don't want to have a flat seat.
  • Black - Not a requirement, I just am lazy and don't feel like buying another bridle. If not black then a dark brown/dark chestnut.
  • Wool Flock/Wool and Foam flocked - A nice foam one is great with me, I just think that wool would last me longer because I could get it reflocked.

A couple saddles I am looking at are:
Meyerstone Rosier/Meyerstoner Aberdeen
Meyerstone Jumping Saddles

Henri De Rivel Advantage Close-contact/Henri de Rivel SO Signature
Henri De Rivel Jumping Saddles

Albion Selecta Multi-Purpose
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    02-27-2012, 12:36 PM
  #2
Weanling
From experience I feel it is really difficult to jump in an all purpose saddle. There are deeper seated jumping saddles, my roommate events and she has a deeper seated jumping saddle that she feel more secure in going cross country. Me being a Hunter I don't like feeling stuck in the saddle, I have an Antares and absolutely love it. My roommate has actually ridden in mine and has said that is the only shallow seated jumping saddle she has ridden in that she would feel comfortable going XC in because she felt so secure in it. I have an OTTB gelding that fits the medium tree but it is a little too wide in the shoulders. I found a great pad that helps it fit perfect. Acavallo Wither Gel Pad | Dover Saddlery . I would just find places that will give you a saddle on trial and keep trying saddles until you fint he one that works the best.
     
    02-27-2012, 12:37 PM
  #3
Showing
I've never heard about 1st one, HDRs I have mixed feelings about, Albions are nice, but those I've seen are not in $800-1100 range (unless you look into used).

If you want a new one in this price range I'd look int M Toulouse, Collegiate, Bates.

Used ones: Albion, Passier, County, Stubben
     
    02-27-2012, 01:19 PM
  #4
Yearling
Don't buy foam-only panels - they rarely fit anything decently and can't be adjusted except by shimming. And foam/flock mix is ok...unless you try to adjust it. Flocking irons/hooks and foam don't mix very well.

Stick with a flocked panel. Personally I'd look for an AP (GP over here) because dressaging a pure jumping saddle messes up your leg position and balance. I never used a jumping saddle on my first horse and we managed Riding Club and novice affiliated (up to 1.10m) with no problems.

Best of luck finding something.

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    02-27-2012, 03:07 PM
  #5
Showing
I find A/P saddle not to be the best for either jumping or dressage. If you jump get CC, if you do dressage look into dressage one. Just IMO.
     
    02-27-2012, 03:10 PM
  #6
Weanling
Agreed. My first saddle was an AP saddle and I got rid of with because I struggled to jump in it.
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    02-27-2012, 05:40 PM
  #7
Foal
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
I've never heard about 1st one, HDRs I have mixed feelings about, Albions are nice, but those I've seen are not in $800-1100 range (unless you look into used).

If you want a new one in this price range I'd look int M Toulouse, Collegiate, Bates.

Used ones: Albion, Passier, County, Stubben
Agreed. I know M. Toulouse has some wool flocked saddles that would be within your price range. Some also come with the Genesis system, so that you can change the saddle width of the tree as you need it -- although that one would be slightly out of your price range. But it might be worth considering, especially since he'll probably change shape in the next couple of years. (And it's a cool set up -- totally different than the gullet plate systems.) I'm thinking of getting one myself this year, just so I can keep the same saddle, even if I change horses a couple times this year.

Collegiates aren't as nice as they once were, but still a good buy for the price. And you can't go wrong with buying a nicer used saddle, especially since you'll probably have an easier time selling it AND you're likely to get about the same as you paid for it.
     
    02-27-2012, 08:31 PM
  #8
Showing
There's a handful of A/P saddles that can work well for jumping. Take my 30+ y/o Courbette Pandür A/P, for example. It's definitely geared more towards jumping than something like a Collegiate event a/p, and I've jumped upwards of 3' in this saddle. I would really struggle to do dressage in it, though. I guess my point is that if you're going to jump, buy a jumping saddle or something with jumping features. You don't want to be fighting your tack.
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    02-28-2012, 07:16 AM
  #9
Showing
Equiniphile, I agree that some A/P even though they are called A/P look more like jumping saddle (BTW, Berney Brothers would be a good example too). But those newer A/P I've seen in stores around definitely offer quite straight flaps, so they are not great for jumping, but not really great for dressage either. They are good for trail riding though! :)
     
    02-28-2012, 08:05 AM
  #10
Foal
You guys are all so awesome! Thanks for all the help. The albion I am looking at is used for 950 and its a good looking saddle. Any thoughts about the selecta?

The saddle I normally ride in is a Kieffer ap or a Passier jumping saddle. Im pretty used to doing dressage in both of those by now. Its not like I am planning on doing third level anytime soon anyways. By the time he is ready to start schooling second I hope to have the money to buy a nice custom dressage saddle.
     

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