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    09-27-2011, 02:20 AM
  #1
Trained
What size bit (and a little rant)?

Okay, so I HAVE to get Aires a new bit soon. We're riding in a 5" loose ring french link snaffle that the trainer gave us and it's just on the verge of being too small for Aires. I want to keep with the french link because he's nice and soft when it comes to turning (works more off your leg than off the bit, if truth be told), but I'm not too concerned about whether it's a loose ring, eggbutt, D-ring, or even full cheek. What I am concerned about is what size we need. I was thinking we'd just go up to a 5.5", but my friend suggested going all the way up to a 6" because Aires is still growing. Would it be a bad idea to go up to a 6"? I just feel like that would be way too big and would slide around in Aires' mouth, regardless of what type it is.

And for my rant...why is it that people think the immediate answer to every problem is to bit up the horse?! Do they not understand that I want my horse to remain soft and responsive to a nice mild bit? One of my other friends asked me if I had resolved Aires stopping issues yet, which I haven't, then went off on this "You need to put a stronger bit in his mouth" tirade. She said "There's a reason they make curb bits and people don't use those soft multi-piece bits like you have!" I just stayed quiet. I ran bitting Aires up by the trainer and she vetoed the idea straight-away. She feels the same way I do: why bit him up when he's so responsive to the french link with everything but stopping, which is a training issue, NOT a tack issue? GAH! And the thing is, my friend won't drop it! I wouldn't be so annoyed if she mentioned it and then let it go. But she keeps harping on me needing to bit up Aires. How many times do I have to say "Not going to happen!" before she gets it! The most I'd do is go back to a regular snaffle with a little more bite than the french link, but as soon as he got the stopping down, I'd go straight back to the french link. Sorry. I'm done. /end rant
     
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    09-27-2011, 10:57 PM
  #2
Started
Get the 5.5 inch so it wont be too big in his mouth. You could always get the 6 inch if he outgrows this one later. As for your friend, I would ignore her and eventually when Aires gets his stopping really nice, you can show her it's possible without a stronger bit.
     
    09-27-2011, 11:07 PM
  #3
Showing
For me, it would depend on how close to too small the 5" was. If it's one of those "Well, he is about to outgrow his bit, I better think of getting a new one soon", then I would stick with a 5.5" for the time being. However, if it's more like "Wow, this bit is definitely too small, it's tight on the corners of his mouth", then I would probably go with the 6". The good thing about snaffles is that they aren't terribly expensive in the grand scheme of things so if you have to get a bigger one here in a few months, it won't be such a big deal.

As for your friend that keep insisting you bit him up...keep ignoring her. He's your horse and what you decide to do with him is completely between you and you're trainer (who sounds like a fantastical trainer, BTW).

Oh, ETA. I don't know what your eventual goals are with Aires, whether you eventually want to move up to a curb bit or if you plan to stick with a snaffle, but I thought I would let you know that I plan to get a bit for Rafe from these folks sometime next spring. Since nobody makes bits in the style that I like in draft size, I'll have to go custom and these people have the most competitive price and their stuff looks like amazing quality.
     
    09-27-2011, 11:52 PM
  #4
Yearling
I would measure his mouth and go with whatever size that is. Its best, especially for the greenies, to get a bit that fits as perfect as possible. Also, I know there are some websites that will let you "rent" a bit for a week and send it back if it doesnt fit or he doesnt like it.

As a fellow big horse owner, I know how hard it is to find big bits . However, I found this site if you need to order. Horse bits, Neue Schule bits, Myler bits, Sprenger bits, Abbey bits, Reinsman bits, bitting accessories and advice - HorseBitBank.com
     
    09-28-2011, 01:00 AM
  #5
Trained
I would do the 5.5'' myself....Just because, moving up too much could be just as bad if his mouth is too small for the 6''.

As for the friend, I would probably end up making a snarky remark...But that wouldn't be the mature way to handle it >.> Just ignore her and show her how good Aires is later on
     
    09-28-2011, 01:28 AM
  #6
Trained
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
For me, it would depend on how close to too small the 5" was. If it's one of those "Well, he is about to outgrow his bit, I better think of getting a new one soon", then I would stick with a 5.5" for the time being. However, if it's more like "Wow, this bit is definitely too small, it's tight on the corners of his mouth", then I would probably go with the 6". The good thing about snaffles is that they aren't terribly expensive in the grand scheme of things so if you have to get a bigger one here in a few months, it won't be such a big deal.

As for your friend that keep insisting you bit him up...keep ignoring her. He's your horse and what you decide to do with him is completely between you and you're trainer (who sounds like a fantastical trainer, BTW).

Oh, ETA. I don't know what your eventual goals are with Aires, whether you eventually want to move up to a curb bit or if you plan to stick with a snaffle, but I thought I would let you know that I plan to get a bit for Rafe from these folks sometime next spring. Since nobody makes bits in the style that I like in draft size, I'll have to go custom and these people have the most competitive price and their stuff looks like amazing quality.
It's more of a "Hmmmm...we need to think about getting a bigger bit sooner rather than later" than a "OMG! We need a new bit...STAT!"

I love my trainer. She is amazing and a good friend, too. She has stuck by me and made me feel really good after everything that happened a couple of weeks ago. She gets what I want to do with Aires (in the long-term and short-term) and is totally on-board with it and with training him toward those goals.

As for my long-term goals...they don't involve much of anything Western, truth be told. Lol We might dabble in WP and even try out team sorting at some point, but nothing serious. The main thing I want to do is eventing. Aires has stamina for DAYS (one day when the BO was working with him, he had to lunge him more than usual to get him to listen and after 30 minutes of working him hard, the BO was sweating more and breathing harder than Aires was) and has such beautiful, ground-eating movement. Our trainer thinks he'd excel at it, as well.

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Originally Posted by Dressage10135    
I would measure his mouth and go with whatever size that is. Its best, especially for the greenies, to get a bit that fits as perfect as possible. Also, I know there are some websites that will let you "rent" a bit for a week and send it back if it doesnt fit or he doesnt like it.

As a fellow big horse owner, I know how hard it is to find big bits . However, I found this site if you need to order. Horse bits, Neue Schule bits, Myler bits, Sprenger bits, Abbey bits, Reinsman bits, bitting accessories and advice - HorseBitBank.com
I've already found some decently-priced bits on eBay, so we're good there. In fact, DraftXDressage had (still has, hopefully?) a 5.5" D-ring french link for sale, so I'm going to contact her and see if she still has it. The price she has it at is comparable to eBay's prices and I'd rather buy from someone on here, to be honest.

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Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
I would do the 5.5'' myself....Just because, moving up too much could be just as bad if his mouth is too small for the 6''.

As for the friend, I would probably end up making a snarky remark...But that wouldn't be the mature way to handle it >.> Just ignore her and show her how good Aires is later on
The thing about my friend is that her heart really is in the right place. I love her to death and she really just wants Aires and I to succeed. She's already impressed with Aires' temperament (didn't believe me that he was a two-year-old when she met him the first time because of how calm he is) and how well-trained he is on the ground (hand-trotted him at one point while she was there and didn't even barely have to coax him into it). A snarky remark would really hurt her feelings and that's the last thing I want to do.
     
    09-28-2011, 06:53 AM
  #7
Showing
Mum, did you measure his mouth? Why you say 5.5? How old is he? You can't just tell - oh, he'll grow up, so lets get bigger one. He may or he may not. Also you want loose rings one to be little bigger than say eggbutt (to avoid pinching). Say I use 5 1/4" eggbutt on my qh, for loose rings I'd go with 5 1/2".
     
    09-28-2011, 11:18 AM
  #8
Foal
I see a lot of larger sized bits for sale, my suggestion would be Green River as they have TONS of bits and are very reasonably priced. I would try a half inch before a full inch because you don't want it too loose and in the event he outgrows it bits are a relatively small investment. How old is he? I didn't think a horses head/mouth grew much?
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    09-28-2011, 02:32 PM
  #9
Trained
He's just over two and we've already been through two halters (and I just ordered a new draft-sized bridle), so yes, his head is still growing. He's in a 5" right now and it's right at the corners of his mouth. I noticed it before the trainer did, but the trainer is the one who suggested going up to the 5.5". *shrug*

KV, I didn't agree with my friend saying go up to the 6". That's why I was asking if going up to a 6" was a good idea. I didn't think it was, but I was just making sure.
     
    09-28-2011, 09:37 PM
  #10
Showing
Quote:
Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum    
He's just over two and we've already been through two halters (and I just ordered a new draft-sized bridle), so yes, his head is still growing. He's in a 5" right now and it's right at the corners of his mouth. I noticed it before the trainer did, but the trainer is the one who suggested going up to the 5.5". *shrug*
Being just little over 2, I'd think he'll grow more. At least my mares did. :)

If the measurement gives you 5 you want to go with 5 1/4" eggbutt (or 5.5 loose rings). And if it sits right on corners he probably is 5 in measurements (of course it's my guess). So very likely the trainer is not all that wrong...
     

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