I've never claimed to be any kind of bit guru, but upon my ride today on my pony Socks (green) - we have come upon a new problem. She is suddenly somehow, after months of work in a regular loose ring snaffle, pulling the rings into her mouth. She has a wonky mouth, proper fit is hard. This is actually a pony bit, so the rings are small, and I feared this happening in the beginning but they didn't slip through when I would direct rein. Suddenly we are now having this problem. She is becoming heavier in the mouth, pretty much ignoring that the bit is there, so I suppose I am fighting her a little more than normal (though nothing terrible by any means). Today was our first hack out away from the farm and we had a couple of interesting moments, so this may be why i've noticed the problem - i'm asking her for more, and she's becoming more resistant than normal and i'm having difficulty getting her to listen with my seat/legs. Fitting bits in her mouth is difficult, this is the only one that fits length-wise that i've been able to find.
She's to the point now where I could probably start to introduce neck reining, but I had hoped to conquer a few more battles yet.
Back to the point of my post. So we had a few interesting moments with the bit practically coming completely out of one side of her mouth today! Yippee. I resigned myself to the fact that I was most likely going to have to go online and do that dreaded search to a find a full cheek (I doubt even a D ring would work, her mouth is shaped so oddly, it needs to be short in length, but the rings need to be BIGGER) that would fit her properly.
After our ride I remember a box of tack I had picked up at a yard sale, I haven't even really gone through it yet. It was just tossed in amongst all my other "crap" i'm not using, half of which I have no idea what it is. I figured i'd check and see if I could get lucky to have a smaller sized full cheek in there.
Amongst my pursuits I found a shanked, jointed, loose "ringed/shanked" bit. (pics at the bottom). I have no idea what this thing is. It's not like any tom thumb i've ever seen, but that's probably the closest way I could describe it. It's like a tom thumb with extra joints in it lol All my internet searches are coming up short. Since the shanks are jointed to the mouth itself, it wouldn't a Tom Thumb, correct?? It looks newer, needs cleaned up a little, but is in good shape. I do NOT like the rollers, when I put the bit in the crook of my arm and close my arm and pull on the "reins" it seems as if it pinches a lot.
It doesn't seem like it would be too harsh, i'm not too crazy about the size of the copper rollers in respect to my girls odd mouth. I tried it on her for the heck of it and she didn't mind it at all, it fit her relatively well length-wise. There may be a slight more amount of play when direct reining than I would typically like, but on this horse i'll take it. (I didn't ride her in it, just reined her from the ground to see how it fit, so i'm not sure how she'd react to it under saddle)
My question to you guys is, what is this? Does it appear bad/harsh? Would it be okay to use? I hope i'm not asking a dumb question here, but I don't think i've ever seen a bit like this. I can identify most bits right off, but I don't even know where to start here. Is it just some kind of odd western training bit? It seems it would be an okay transitional bit, but like I said, I don't claim to know everything about bits. I do know i'm unsure of this one, looks like it could pinch easily, but otherwise i'm stumped on the mechanics? Yay or neigh?