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post #1 of 29 Old 03-21-2011, 10:07 PM Thread Starter
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What is wrong with my saddle's fit?

No pictures, hopefully you can tell me by my description.
New wintec (well, new to me :p), I have the medium gullet in it.

The pommel is very much higher than the cantle. It is about 4 or more fingers above his withers

So I'm thinking the tree may be too narrow? However, there is good (maybe excess) room already between the panels for his spine to be free. It fits well otherwise... front and back panels both have even contact.

So, do I need a bigger tree or a new saddle?

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why no picture.? Come on Eliz.
If I understand your brief descrition, the pommel is too high because it is too narrow, but you commented that the clearance for the spinal channel is more than adequate. SO, it sounds like the angle of the tree is much more upright than your horse's body. Your horse needs a flatter (more narrow at top, wider at bottom) angle tree. If the next size up of changeable gullet has the same angle, but is just bigger, it will not work. By the time you got the bottom part wide enough , the top part would be way too wide.

Need differen saddle, it looks like.
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These two web sites have a ton of good info on saddle fit. The second one , scroll down a bit and there's some photos showing how to compare the angle of the saddle tree to the angle of the horse's barrel using two dressage whips.
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I should know better, shame on me!! I wasn't even going to ask, I just thought I'd try the larger girth, so I didn't take pictures. Then, the more I got to thinking about it the more a larger gullet didn't make much sense except for the wither clearence!
I will try those tests tomorrow (very neat!) and the next girth, but if not...
Looks like I've got a saddle for sale! ;)

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It's either too narrow, or just not balanced well for your horse. Ride with a thin pad until your horse has a good sweat under the saddle pad. Hop off and check the sweat marks. Dry spots generally indicate excess pressure, though a dry spine means good air flow.

Pictures would definitely help.
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I will definitely get pictures tomorrow evening, provided I can find the time ;)

Thanks!

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Impossible to say without pics, but... What is 5 fingers for one person just 3 fingers for another. How it sounds its probably too narrow, but who knows.

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What kind of saddle is that? An AP? Is it a synthetic?

It sits too high in front, just as you said. It looks like in these pictures that you have it set further back than a saddle should sit, and no doubt even if you bring it forward, it wants to slide back on its' own, due to it's shape and your horse's back. It is so uphill in orientation now that you would really be struggling in this saddle to not fall behind the motion of your horse.

It must be too narrown in front, thus lifting the front too high, and making the saddle want to slide backward.
The horse is short backed, so he is just the kind of horse that would do better in the kind of saddle that Kitten Val posted on her saddle fit issue thread. Go take a look and give her your opinion.
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Too far back? I sat it up high and slid it down a few times to find that "groove" where it just naturally stops. But I wouldn't doubt that it is.. I'm always paranoid about getting it too far forward and blocking the shoulder!

Yes, Wintec AP.

Thanks for the input! I hoped it would fit but that's ok :)
Do you need a saddle? Lol

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