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post #1 of 8 Old 05-18-2012, 02:40 AM Thread Starter
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Question Are Whippy saddles any good?

I have been recently looking for a saddle I can do jumping with. I found this old Whippy CC saddle on craigslist, and I like the old fashioned simplicity of it. I am not too savvy on many English saddle brands, however. Is Whippy a good/sturdy brand? Have any of you had expierence with these saddles?

Oh also, is $350 an appropriate price for this?

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Haven't seen a Whippy saddle for a good few years. They were making saddles during the Napoleonic Wars, but I think they stopped in the 1970s, which from the picture looks about the right age.

It seems well looked after, but I'd be wary of the stitching in any forty-year-old saddle.

Having said that, I've seen plenty of even older saddles still in use. They made them to last in those days!

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I looked into Whippy jumping saddle myself last year. It was $350 in consignment store (meaning it really worth $300 at the max). I even borrow it just to find it it has VERY narrow channel meaning it would pinch a back badly (indeed, I measured it and it's like twice more narrow than my MT or Thornhill). Plus because it's so old it most probably needs re-flocking (which is in my area around $150-200). Personally I'd pass.

P.S. This is my thread about similar saddle: Saddle fit critique! Urgent!

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Thanks for all the feedback! The ad says that it is a medium tree. Do you guys still think it would fit too narrow? My mare is about average, maybe just a bit on the narrow side for an Appy.
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Thanks for all the feedback! The ad says that it is a medium tree. Do you guys still think it would fit too narrow? My mare is about average, maybe just a bit on the narrow side for an Appy.
Tree is something different from the channel. I don't know about the tree because for every brand medium vs narrow vs wide is different (for example I have wide tree on my MT, but medium tree on my Thornhill, and my Collegiate was medium as well). Channel is that "gap" between the "puffy" sides on bottom side of the saddle. You really have to measure what the channel is on your horse (the sensitive part along the spine). If the channel on saddle is too narrow the weight will be sitting on your horse's sensitive back making damage and (possibly) causing her to misbehave.

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Thanks for all the feedback! The ad says that it is a medium tree. Do you guys still think it would fit too narrow? My mare is about average, maybe just a bit on the narrow side for an Appy.

Sorry, but 'average' and a 'bit on the narrow side' don't really mean anything. Most of the appaloosas I see in the UK are at at least a wide fit, being QH ancestry.

Again, most of the old Whippy saddles I've seen (including sidesaddles) were narrow fit - they survived through underuse because horses have generally got wider. I'd double check the width before you buy and also take into account the tree profile. That saddle is middle deep-seated (slight curve to horse's back profile) and appys tend to be fairly flat, in my experience. Horses being as they are, though, I might be completely wrong

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Alright, thank you!
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Hmm, it depends on the horse if it would fit, they do build these saddles to last! I rode in a very old Crosby up until a year ago when my mare and all her dressage work grew out of it.

Wider channels aren't necessarily better, it depends on the horse. Lessee rides my gelding in a Wintec Pro for dressage and in Bates AP saddle for jumping. She purchased a Bates dressage saddle and brought it out to the barn to try and the channel was simply too wide for my QH gelding (he goes in a red (wide) tree, but the channel was too wide). It caused him to act very painful and crowhop.

Albions and County's are like that with my mare, I have not found any saddle in those brands that fit her well because of the wide/roomy channels.

At any rate, if you can try it and set it on your horse, do it! Those pancake saddles will sure teach you how to ride. The thing I loved about one that I borrowed for a few months was that for XC riding, even if I got a bad spot or got a little off balance, it was easy to get myself back into the "sweet spot" because there was no high cantle or big padded flaps to get around.
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