After being involved with a Professional Saddle Maker/Fitter - who was trained by Scheelse himself, my eyes were opened to reading your saddle pads, to see what exactly is going on with your saddle fit and your horses back.
I have a few pads that I need looked at - so I can figure out what is going on with my Boo's saddle and his back.
My inexperienced eye tells me that there is too much preassure in front (the clean spots at the shoulder. Hard pressure = too tight for dust to come forward and rubb off) and possibly the rider sits slightly more on his/her right seatbone by any chance, but I won't bet my head on that one :P
Judging saddle pads should only be one part of the equation. You need to look at sweat patterns on the horse and back sensitivity. Just on saddle pad alone, there's too much pressure up front, though it's better in the last pad. And yes, you're sitting to the right heavier, either your seat/hips or your right shoulder is dropped.
Also, the new saddle is sitting heavier along his spine than the outside of the panels. If it's a wool flocked saddle, it will break in and conform to his back. If it's a foam flocked saddle, then the panels are not the right shape for his back.
This is very interesting...never thought to look at the bottom of the pad for saddle fit. I'm going to take a picture of my pad tomorrow to see what you all think about it. I'm especially concerned because while my instructor says that my saddle fits fine, it's a very cheap saddle (because when I bought it I wasn't sure I was going to stick with English...now I'm pretty sure).
I sent pictures of my pads to the Professional Saddle Maker/Fitter who was trained by Schleese - and I got info back on the first pad. This is what was said :
"This one is bad.
It is sitting on 4 points again, front and back. It has pressure points in the front and then spreads out a bit to do a bit of weight bearing around them. The middle is bridging and the rear is weight bearing more than it should. The front is not big clean areas of weight bearing, they are pressure points.
The front should look like the back does. It should be clean from no movement. To me the front looks like it is moving with 2 smaller cleaner areas under the tree points. (Save the pic and enlarge it to see it more clearly. It is much harder to see at this size).
The front should be the cleanest, the middle some dirt hair and the back the dirtiest.
This looks the opposite. Yes, the back has sweat from movement, but the back end is going to move back and forth-sideways as the horse moves no matter what. It looks like it is doing too much weight bearing to me vs the front and middle. (Except for the two pressure points).
You could try having it gutted and freshly flocked. The tree points look to be jabbing in, so I would be looking at filling in around the front to lift the tree away. Since it is already bridging it would then need a rounder panel or it would bridge even more. Then the back would also have to be brought up too to balance it. The panels would need to be very generous to get that much lift too"
Sooooooo - my Wintec is garbage. Not good at all. I have yet to recieve what she says about the M.T that I used on a day trial.
I totally agree, and adding pads will make a poor fitting saddle even worse.
But it is all I have right now. My Wintec.
Nelson is an odd fit, and I would be better off with a Custom Made, but who can afford that.
He is A Symetrical. High narrow wither and an extremly broad back. I get a saddle to fit his withers, now I have pockets, briding and his broad back is not accomodated.
Which is what we see the the pad I posted first.
His previous owner was riding him with a wide saddle to accomodate his broad back, and used a thick Diamond Wither Relief Pad - and it seemed to be working, so I am going to go back to that.
The Blue Gullet in my saddle was working well for Nelson - a medium/wide - when he was fully in shape, but since we had the winter off, it is not so accomodating anymore - again, as seen in the 1st pad.