A stronger bit will fix problem horses. I was looking at bits a little bit ago and found some of these. There is absolutely no reason why a horse would ever need a 1/8th inch twisted wire gag bit and if the person thinks they do, they shouldn't have the honor of having a horse. What amazes me is that enough people actually buy these things that they are able to afford mass production. It just makes me mad every time I see one of these cause I know that it cannot be comfortable to the horse just walking around, let alone when a rider is yanking on them. And in my area, that is usually what happens when someone upgrades to something like this is because they yank and pull all the time.
If a horse cannot be controlled in a very mild bit, then the horse and rider both need retraining.
And I am not sure that this one is harsh or not but it just looks mean.
IMO I downgraded my mare's bit soon after I got her. She was ridden in a single jointed kimberwicke and was just a beast undersaddle. I did some research and spent a pretty penny and got a myler low port comfort snaffle.
She rides so much better in that.
What I personally cannot stand is when a trainer tells the rider to get a harsher bit. The trainer should be training them!
I agree completely. When we bought our first horse, I knew nothing. A tack store salesperson talked me into a twisted wire snaffle. Thankfully, we found a trainer to help us out before I ever stuck it in her mouth. I still have it with the tags on it. I just keep it as a reminder to always do some research and ask lots of knowledgeable people before trying anything on a horse.
I guess they still make them because silly greenies like I used to be still buy them
Oh man, I would LOVE to know myself. I get so tired of reading how people want to know about a better (meaning stronger) bit to use on their horse. You tell them to go back a few steps in the training process and they don't want to do that! It's irritating!
I think with very few exceptions, they could be ridden in halters.
It's about good training. If your horse is running through the bit, he's not listening to your legs/voice or there are other issues. Instead of going to a strong bit, go back to the ground and get some respect and then move ahead.
People just have no patience. This is a huge pet peeve of mine.
There are people looking for a quick fix in every part of the world! To me it's the same thing as those quick fad diets that make you "melt fat in days with no hard work"! Unfortunately in this case it's the horses that suffer from people ineptitude.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think every horse should go in a snaffle in every situation. Certain horses in certain hands do very well in a stronger bit.. but seriously? A bicycle chain? (first in the 3rd row) idiots.
I think with the right training and patience there'd be no need for those stronger bits. There are always exceptions of course, but the majority no way. Those stronger bits were designed for impatient people not horses!!!
Some of those bits even LOOK torturous let alone having it in a horses mouth as well! Goodness, they look like something you could use in a torture chamber.. maybe some of the people who use them on their horses should be put in one
My one gelding Gem, was ridden in a tom thumb. I didnt know at the time how bad those are (talking about the American one, not the Australian one). But Gem was so sweet and just didnt seem like he need a bit. My fiance test rode him bitless and he listened so he hasn't had a bit in his mouth since.
I ride Blue is a slow twist full cheeck when jumping because she gets so exited and I need the little bit of extra control, but I don't yank at her and she is really good. I do ride her in her halter all the time, I agree that if you need a chain and spikes to control a horse, you have some serious issues.