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    10-03-2009, 04:13 AM
  #1
Weanling
Why do we all this tack???

Ok so it seams now in the world of horses we have a gadget for any thing, any problem can be ruled out with just this wonderful bit, peace of leather, what ever it may be, well why? Why would you pay money for a stronger bit? Why would you pay money for a tie down? Why would you pay money for all these 'wonderful' gadgets that will only prevent the problem, bolting, bucking, biting, kicking, rearing, etc. When all you need is time, time to fix the problem, not just mask it with this gadget which eventually your horse will end up either braking, or becoming 'emunded' to it & you'll need somthing stronger, etc. All I ask is WHY????
     
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    10-03-2009, 04:22 AM
  #2
Trained
Because apparently no body has time no days to o back to basics and get to the underlying issue, and work through it before moving ahead. Everyone wants it NOW and using a gadget is going to make it happen NOW than that's what they'll do. Little thought is made about the future of the horse, that they won't get past a certain level because the basics are not there. Although, having said that, there seems to be enough gadgets out there now to force a horse to perform all grand prix movements with its head jammed in and hind legs miles out behind, but that doesn't matter because the rider can then boast they they have 'ridden' at Grand Prix level.
     
    10-03-2009, 04:30 AM
  #3
Weanling
Tell me bout it! Ahhh it gets me so annoyed!
     
    10-03-2009, 04:51 AM
  #4
Yearling
There are many 'gadgets' that do work if used appropriately. Many people use them wrongly however because they arnt educated to do so
     
    10-03-2009, 04:56 AM
  #5
Trained
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Originally Posted by ThatNinjaHorse    
There are many 'gadgets' that do work if used appropriately. Many people use them wrongly however because they arnt educated to do so
Yeah good point, I use a gadget or two if the need arises, but certainly not as a short cut, more an aid to help my training, such as side reins to lunge- see so many people use and abuse them it's not funny, horses with their heads strapped to their chests etc. Thus sidereins get a bad rep, when it's not the reins that are the problem, it's the user.
     
    10-03-2009, 08:29 AM
  #6
Yearling
I agree with you guys. It seems every time I got to a horse auction, the horses can't be rode without spurs or a whip. And they 'call' themselves 'horse trainers'? It is really sad, it is very miserable for the horse. If they took the time and trained it right, they could sell it for more, and not even have to use all those things.
     
    10-03-2009, 07:09 PM
  #7
Trained
I ride my horse in "gadgets" because it more or less completes the look. We ride english, and her bridle is complete with a correctly adjusted noseband and flash, I can fit two fingers between the straps and her face. We also ride with a breast plate because her long back causes the saddle to slide, and it looks good. And I ride with spurs and occasionally a whip, not that she can't be ridden without them, but I usually ride with my calf and legs more than my heels, so she only gets spurred when she's being unusually obstinate about moving off my leg.

And like ThatNinjaHorse said, most gadgets, when used properly, help encourage a certain behavior, but they aren't supposed to be used forever, but rather to teach the horse something and then take it away. It's sad to see so much equipment abused, and especially sad to see the horses with all sorts of crap on them because "they need it".
     
    10-03-2009, 07:45 PM
  #8
Weanling
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Originally Posted by brookelovesparelli    
Ok so it seams now in the world of horses we have a gadget for any thing, any problem can be ruled out with just this wonderful bit, peace of leather, what ever it may be, well why? Why would you pay money for a stronger bit? Why would you pay money for a tie down? Why would you pay money for all these 'wonderful' gadgets that will only prevent the problem, bolting, bucking, biting, kicking, rearing, etc. When all you need is time, time to fix the problem, not just mask it with this gadget which eventually your horse will end up either braking, or becoming 'emunded' to it & you'll need somthing stronger, etc. All I ask is WHY????


Amen to that!

I never use any training gadgets that I put on my horses. My main horse that I ride the most all I'll use is a saddle, saddle pad, hackamore (natural hackamore found on the halfcircleranch same as the Parelli one) and an occasional breast collar if I'm trail riding on steeeep inclines.

I personally think that if someone has to rely on tie-downs or harsh bits, etc to get their horse to behave or to keep a good "frame" that they should restart with their horse from ground one. IMO all horses should be able to be ridden in a simple rope halter (or the natural hackamore), and with a simple snaffle....that's it.
     
    10-03-2009, 11:27 PM
  #9
Started
Amen brookelovesparelli!! If a horse "needs" some piece of equipment to "help" certain issues, well, there is a hole in the foundation that needs fixing.
     
    10-03-2009, 11:41 PM
  #10
Weanling
Spirithorse, you are so right. Even gaited horses should be ridden with as little as possible. When I'm working with a horse I'm not allowed to have spurs because as a two or three year old they should learn that even without any of that they need to listen. We use martingales the first two or three times, but after that it is only to warm up and remind them for the next month. Once they are "greenbroke" they no longer need anything except a bridle or halter and if the rider needs it a saddle. My step-dad rides all of them in a halter adn leadrope bareback before we ever think of trying to sell them. At that point they should be calm and able to walk, flat walk,and running walk/rack. Once they are four or five they are also able to canter like that if we have them. There are a couple of Quarter horses in training that can't do that yet, but they are working on barrels and learning to think so that they don't "blow-up." They are only four and five so only 1 out of 5-6 rides has the barrel pattern at more than a trot/walk. Most of the time they are on the trails. :)
     

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