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post #21 of 67 Old 01-26-2011, 04:20 PM
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I tried riding my horse in a lead and halter...DID NOT WORK!
She was trained to work in a snaffle or curb bit. She works with both. Some horses don't like bitless bridles and therefore they don't respond to them and some don't like bits but a person has to listen to their horse and figure what works best for them.There are extremely harsh bits and gentle bits.
I have my horse in an eggbutt I believe..haven't checked as I switch them out every so often but before she was in a curb bit and did not like the snaffle. Lately she has learned to flex at the poll WHICH I am very proud of my stubborn mare =D

Hackamores/bitless can hurt the nose of the horse if you do not have it properly fitted and can actually break the horses nose if you apply an extreme amount of pressure and sometimes people aren't aware of it.

OP,we are not trying to run you off of your thread. I am curious to why you have not responded to any of the replies you have recieved and hope we did not scare you away.

That first video has been seen by many. I use to be a veggie and use to watch peta videos but when I was a vegetarian I would have ignored this video as I find it too extreme and they are just wanting the horses to be set free...not everyone can ride bridleless :P ;)..I just feel that's what they would prefer as a bitless still has control and the nose is very sensitive just like the mouth is.
I have to admitt sometimes I am heavy on the reins and sometimes I am not. I am learning. But I also want to say I'm not an amy westfall :)
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post #22 of 67 Old 01-26-2011, 04:22 PM
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I think you like creating drama....
Just because you use a hackamore doesn't mean its for everyone. I rode in a hack for years then switched back to a bit. Any bit can be harmful in the wrong hands, its the rider not the bit. And the harshest bit alive can be soft on a well trained horse. Those videos are just mad by single minded people who don't even know how a bit works propertly.
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post #23 of 67 Old 01-26-2011, 07:18 PM
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Ah yes, this video again.

Eventer, if you liked that video, you might like this website:

Horseback Riding and Animal Rights: Can They Ever Be in Harmony? - Comments by: Saba Alemayehu - 25 Feb 2002: Comments and Discussions - Questions and Answers: Archive of all-creatures.org and Veg-Christian,vegetarian, vegan, cruelty free, God, Jesus

Talks about horse riding being a sin etc etc etc

In fact, why stop at the bit, surely saddles are cruel also? How about keeping a horse in an enclosed paddock? Doesn't that restrict its freedom?

Maybe you should sponsor a BLM Mustang and just let it run around the ranges. Hopefully gelded first.

But hats off to you for starting another thread to get people fired up, mission accomplished. Now are you ready to respond to the other peoples comments? Or have you disappeared?

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post #24 of 67 Old 01-26-2011, 07:25 PM
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Oh dear, if horseback riding is a sin, I know where I'm going, and it ain't a pretty place...Lol!

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Oh dear, if horseback riding is a sin, I know where I'm going, and it ain't a pretty place...Lol!
See ya down there sista! I'll be sure to bring appropriate tack

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See ya down there sista! I'll be sure to bring appropriate tack
Hehe *grin*
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See ya down there sista! I'll be sure to bring appropriate tack
I'm sure we'll need lots of it, cause I don't think the horses there will be easy rides!

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post #28 of 67 Old 01-26-2011, 07:50 PM
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Hehe, I'll be there too. Good news is, since all us 'evil' people will be there, we can gang up and take the place over, import ice from Antarctica, and throw a big ole party .

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My mare hated bits when I got her, so I switched her to bitless. We've spent 2.5 years riding bitless, and she does fine in many ways. On a calm day, she'll respond to the weight of the rein on the bridle, which is just a rope halter with rings for the reins to attach to.

That said, on Monday I tried riding her with a snaffle. It was only the third time in over 2 years. And frankly, she seemed pleased as punch. She didn't complain about it going in her mouth, she turned well, and when I put just slight (little finger) pressure on it, she took off. Not bolting, but she stretched her trot out, lowered her head, put her ears forward, and we did circles, figure 8s, etc at a pace just below a canter with her acting like it felt GOOD.

At the end, I did need to hold the bridle for nearly a minute before she spit the bit out, and she acted like it was a snake coming out - so maybe I now know why she was afraid of a bit when I got her (it took me 3 days to get a bridle on her, and then I switched to bitless with her).

So no, bits don't hurt horses, people do! And FWIW, someone with heavy hands can be every bit as harsh with most bitless bridles.

It is like the farrier told me when I asked him about shoes for horses. "Listen to the horse!" was his reply. "Some need shoes, and others don't. Listen to your horse!"

BTW, you can see them bitless in my 'barn' pictures.
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post #30 of 67 Old 01-26-2011, 08:12 PM
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Anyone else on horseforum yank on their horses mouth like that all the time?

The second horse seems to be clinching his jaw in the second video. Like he is uncomfortable with the cross over.

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