Originally Posted by goingnowhere1
...please don't preach to me about how I called it bad, I called it bad because it is leverage and that makes it have more pressure in any hand...
Why do you think that these companies push twisted snaffles on you westerners?
No one pushes any bit on any riders. People choose to buy them, or not.
Leverage on a bit isn't bad. Neither is a twisted wire, I suppose, if you have the hands to make them work. Meanwhile, I've removed a lot of hair from my horse's face using a rope bitless bridle, and I've used far too much pressure in her mouth using a snaffle she didn't respect.
I prefer going to a leveraged bit (using poll pressure outside the mouth) to going with a sharper snaffle inside the mouth - but some good trainers recommend twisted wire bits for some purposes. I don't have the experience to tell them they are wrong, IF the rider is good.
Please remember that not all horses are the same, and some will cheerfully ignore a simple snaffle. Mia behaves fine with a simple snaffle for about 95% of riding or more. But an excited horse who knows she can run thru a simple snaffle is NOT fun to ride, either.
It isn't just a training issue. Once a horse figures out how to 'get the bit in his teeth', a plain snaffle will always leave the horse that option. Training will reduce the likelyhood
of a horse using that option, but not eliminate the knowledge entirely. Also, a good trainer can use the harsher bit the same way a good trainer can use a crop - to train for a softer response. Of course, a hamfist with a crop can make a mess of a horse, too.
All IMHO as a nobody rider.