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post #1 of 31 Old 03-23-2010, 12:13 PM Thread Starter
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Question Wintec help!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, so here is the deal. I am selling my 3 english saddles (2 have sold so far) and I REALLLLY want a wintec. I am looking at small shows, training my horse, some jumping (probably nothing over 3 or 4 feet), and riding other horses. I have heard some bad and good things about the Cair panels and am very confused about whether I should get a saddle with it or without it. I need an 18" seat with the gullet system and it needs to be BROWN. I want one of the New generation wintec all purposes and think I will get this one.
Wintec | All Purpose
If I get enough $$$ I want this one
Wintec | All Purpose

Will the straighter wintec tree fit my horse ?
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To CAIR or not to CAIR?

Will an 18" be large enough for me? (the saddle in the pic is a 17")
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Your Facebook links aren't working for me. Can you load your photos here?

Some horses do well with the CAIR panels, some do not. The nice thing about the wool flocked panels is you can have them adjusted by a saddle fitter should you need to. Personally, I prefer wool flocked panels.
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here are the pics
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You look about my size and I require a 19" English saddle. I could not comfortably fit in to an 18" AP saddle. I would try one on your horse and ride in it and see if you're comfortable. You should have at least 3 fingers of space between the back of your bum and the top/back edge of the cantle. You also want about 2-3 fingers of space between the front edge of the pommel and the front of your pelvic bone.

I wish they made Wintecs in a 19", at least the AP model, but alas, they do not. Bates newer APs come in a 19" and you can find them used on occassion. Stubben, Crosby, and Courbettes also come in 19". The Courbette Optima even comes in a 20", by special order ;).
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I was comfy in that saddle tho. I might just go with an 18
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Firstyly, if you want to jump YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SADDLE THAT FITS YOU! I learned this the hard way. My wintec AP does NOT fit me, I require a 17.5", and was riding in a 17, and that saddle throws me WAYYY off blanace. Secondly, I would go for an actual jumping saddle, NOT an AP. They disable you from properly getting your leg up underneath your body enough to do more than 2'6" stuff. I'm an eventer, and so I have to have a very secure, strong seat, and my wintec doesn't allow me to do that. I would firstly talk to a saddle fitter, they can help fit both you and your horse, and help you find the right saddle. Also, the cair ins't that bad, but I would perfer wool flocking, so it can be ajusted. And the wintec material is hard to deal with also. AND the saddles really arn't that comfy either.

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I am only doing recreational jumping and very very small shows (mostly western) so will an AP be ok?
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here are pics of me jumping 2'7" in my wintec, see how my theigh can't get the proper position because the saddle doesn't fit?
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Again, proper fit is key to doing anything with jumping

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There are two Wintec AP's...the 500 and the 2000. Completely different saddles...night and day....apples and oranges.

The 500 has a deeper seat and a wider twist. The 2000 is the opposite...flatter seat with a much narrower twist.

The saddle in my avatar is the Wintec 500...as you can see, a rider is more than capable of sitting correctly in the saddle. When I want to do flatwork, I lengthen the stirrups, when I want to jump I shorten them. I however, can not sit in a Wintec 2000 to save my life. The saddle absolutely does not fit my body build. I don't recall now, if that saddle is a 17" or a 17.5".

I do agree that to 'specialize' and go to a higher level, you need a dressage saddle for dressage, a jumping saddle for jumping and so on, but if the Wintec 500 or 2000 fits both you and your horse, it is a very good value and will get you started.
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