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    12-26-2010, 01:32 PM
  #1
Weanling
Is a Wintec the one for me?

Bah, Im really starting to reconsider my approach to getting a new saddle. I was intent on getting a leather saddle at first, since Id be showing almost every month, and some judges here are very...tack conscious. So, naturally, I wanted real leather. I had originally thought that all wintecs were that suede-type of material and that's why I didnt want one. But now that I've gotten into really looking at saddles, I've seen some that are synthetic wintecs, but look like real leather. Specifically their Close Contact saddle for jumping. AND the fact that their adjustable gullet may come in handy.

I ride a lotttt of different horses in my lessons. Most of them, however, have high withers. REALLY high withers, so I like the idea of being able to put the narrow gullet in. But my question is, would this really be beneficial to me? Does the gullet change system reaaally do much? I don't wanna spend $450 for the saddle new, and gullets I need on ebay if it's not what I need. And I know $450 for the whole package of saddle, gullets, leathers, and stirrups (I think even a cover and girth) isnt a lot of money saddle-wise, especially for all that, AND the fact that it's new, but still. I am on a TIGHT budget. Im a teenager, without a job, without a car, and the closest tack shop is 40-50 minutes away, and I refuse to go there, as they have been using our card number(they do things manually with the hand swiper that makes indentions on a paper) to pay for things at their shop, so I am extremely uncomfortable with buying there or testing saddles there.

I also have a saddle right now that's a Courbette CC, but has no knee blocks, which I probably should have, and it doesnt fit at all, so I was trying to trade it in for a saddle that would work better, but no one has anything I am looking for (If you think you do, then feel free to let me know!).

All in all, what are your opinions on Wintecs for my situation?
     
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    12-26-2010, 02:48 PM
  #2
Showing
Grace, I don't think interchangeable gullets that big of thing, also changing them is a pain in butt. However it may be a good way to go still if you ride lots of horses. I can't really advise on Wintec as I'm not that positive what kind of horses it fits (mine definitely were not on list, I had to re-sell mine).
     
    12-26-2010, 03:46 PM
  #3
Weanling
I have the Wintec Close Contact 500. I love it. The one complaint I have is that you can't change the gullet width, and it comes very very wide. I don't think it will accommodate your situation. Does the barn provide tack? Do they have specific saddles for every horse? If yes, (especially to the second question) DO NOT BUY A SADDLE AT ALL. Save your money. It was a good decision for me to buy a saddle because the barn only provides Wintecs anyway, and half the time all of them are in use. Changing the gullet will not provide more wither clearance. It may even just pinch the horse. To get more wither clearance the best you could do with a Wintec is get pad for it. Like this: Dover Saddlery | Roma Pro Tek Original Riser Pad .
Not to mention that you have to pay an extra $90 for the kit with the gullets.
Even with the pad, some horses might be bothered by it. Though I've found school horses to be fairly tolerant of an ill fitting saddle.
Also, the CC500 I got is LONG. I don't know if this was an option I just forgot to correct when ordering, but it is about 18", and I fit well into a 15". It looks a little silly. It sort of encroaches on my horse's loins, and fortunately the fact that my seat doesn't reach that far makes it...Bearable.
Honestly, I think you are not in a good position to buy a saddle at all. Save your money to get one beautifully fitting saddle when you have a horse that you own or lease.
     
    12-27-2010, 11:09 AM
  #4
Weanling
The Wintec 500 cc and the Pro Jump cc are both changeable gullet saddles. The cc seats run about 1/2" longer than stated size. The 16.5" is about 17" from center of nail to the back of the cantle. It's a sliver more than 16.5 from center of the nail to the inside edge of the cantle.

The Collegiate Diploma and Alumni with the changable gullets are the same tree and gullet plates as the Wintecs, are leather, and have flocked panels.
     
    12-27-2010, 12:59 PM
  #5
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Tack Collector    
The Wintec 500 cc and the Pro Jump cc are both changeable gullet saddles. The cc seats run about 1/2" longer than stated size. The 16.5" is about 17" from center of nail to the back of the cantle. It's a sliver more than 16.5 from center of the nail to the inside edge of the cantle.

The Collegiate Diploma and Alumni with the changable gullets are the same tree and gullet plates as the Wintecs, are leather, and have flocked panels.
The Diploma and Alumni don't look like they'd be curvy enough for the horses I ride. Not to mention they're a lot more expensive than the wintec I'm looking at XD I'm most likely just waiting a month or two till I get my horse and then I'll start trying tons of different saddles and be getting a lot more serious. Do tack shops let you trailer to them sometimes so you don't have to keep taking saddles and have to keep returning them? Because mine is very far from my stables.
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    12-27-2010, 02:38 PM
  #6
Weanling
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Originally Posted by RidingTowardsGrace    
most likely just waiting a month or two till I get my horse and then I'll start trying tons of different saddles and be getting a lot more serious. Do tack shops let you trailer to them sometimes so you don't have to keep taking saddles and have to keep returning them? Because mine is very far from my stables.
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Good plan.
I would call ahead. I assume they would let you (makes their job easier) but some may not want it.
     
    12-27-2010, 02:45 PM
  #7
Weanling
I guess Ill just call when the time comes :P Because it's in the city (Austin) and they have a parking lot, but it's kinda small, so I don't know if they'd want me to bring the horse to them, haha. Maybe Ill Do the wire thing with a coat hanger, and also gullet templates that you can print out. Btw are gullet templates like these any help at all:

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/thesa...ate-simple.pdf
http://wowsaddles.com/images/manual/...le%20gauge.pdf

It'd probably help narrow things down if so.
     
    12-27-2010, 05:48 PM
  #8
Weanling
Wintec 500, Pro Jump, Collegiate Convertibles, and Bates Caprilli cc are all the same tree. That's been discussed on HGS forum and also UltimateDressage.

There are nice used Collegiate Convertible ccs going for $550 - $650 on eBay and in consignment sections in online tack shops. I bought a really nice like-new Diploma with the whole gullet kit for $500 + $25 shipping around this time last year, but the twist was too narrow for me. So, I sent it back.

Unless you mean a $350 used Wintec, that's a better deal than a Wintec.
     
    12-27-2010, 07:02 PM
  #9
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Tack Collector    
Wintec 500, Pro Jump, Collegiate Convertibles, and Bates Caprilli cc are all the same tree. That's been discussed on HGS forum and also UltimateDressage.

There are nice used Collegiate Convertible ccs going for $550 - $650 on eBay and in consignment sections in online tack shops. I bought a really nice like-new Diploma with the whole gullet kit for $500 + $25 shipping around this time last year, but the twist was too narrow for me. So, I sent it back.

Unless you mean a $350 used Wintec, that's a better deal than a Wintec.
I mean a new cc wintec with the gullet system, a cover, a girth, leathers, stirrups, and I think a bridle, for $350+shipping.
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    12-27-2010, 08:08 PM
  #10
Weanling
It's probably crap. Personally, I've never seen a Wintec I thought was attractive or looked like it fit a horse nicely. You can't get that much stuff for $350 unless it's very well used. I bought my Dover Circuit saddle, just the saddle, used for $300 and consider that to be a fabulous deal. I'd definitely look used rather than new if your budget is that low.
     

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