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    06-15-2009, 04:54 PM
Smile WOAH boy! (bitting question!)

Hello all you horsie people!
I am new here, and thought I'd ask a question. I have a 4 year old quarter paint gelding I've had from a yearling, been working with him for just over 2 years now in the saddle. I have him in a sweet copper split ring snaffle and he is doing really well in lessons (learning transitions, we were going to barrel race this year but I am pregnant so that's scratched.)
The issue I am having now is he is starting to rush and hang on the bit. He anticipates the trot and canter, even though I keep everything rally varied so he doesn't "get used" to a particular routine. We (my trainer and I) have been working on his stops and backups, which are great, it's just his rushing is getting really annoying. SO long story short, my trainer wants him in a stronger bit.....what would your suggestion be? She said something about shanks but I didn't catch it and forgot to ask afterwards. He is a sensitive horse with a white face, so I don't want to kill his mouth. He had a vet check recently and had his teeth done, so I think it's just youthful sillies, but still, being pregnant, a little more control would be nice. What do you guys use? Thanks!!
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    06-15-2009, 05:05 PM
A tom thumb is a good first leverage bit. It has a broken mouth piece like a snaffle but then has the shanks as well. You would probably want to start with a shorter shank this will be more mild.

Tom thumb copper mouth bit

So this bit is basically the same bit you have been using plus a little leverage.
    06-15-2009, 05:15 PM
Today's Horse - The Trouble with Tom Thumb

It's a HORRIBLE cruel bit that CONFUSES the heck out of your horse! It causes uneven pressure. Read the article! I had my horse in a Tom Thumb bit and I had SO much trouble! I read the article (was horrified) and threw it in the trash that day. I thought he was being bratty, but it was the bit hurting him and giving him unclear singals.

This helps stop my horse from rushing. Instead of pulling back until he stops, I pull back, release, pull back, release. It worked A LOT better for me.

If you want a bit, do not get a bit like the Tom Thumb (It can't be broken like a snaffle and have shanks)

Read the article, it has some bit sugesstions on there. Hope it helps! Sorry, the Tom Thumb caused SO many problems with my horse and I don't want it for yours.
    06-15-2009, 05:34 PM
I tried the Tom Thumb very briefly and he hated it, I think my hands are not soft enough for it.
    06-15-2009, 05:35 PM
I would suggest you go back and ask your trainer since she is the one that made the suggestion and knows you, your horse.
    06-15-2009, 05:36 PM
Ah yes, we do this in our lessons, also called "bumping" the nose right? It dos seem to help a bit, but after a while, he just continues his rushing.

I've been doing some reading, a smooth wire snaffle sounds interesting...any feedback?
    06-15-2009, 05:36 PM
Good suggestion :) I just hope she isn't upset and thinks I don't listen lol
    06-15-2009, 05:40 PM
Originally Posted by BrokenWings    
Good suggestion :) I just hope she isn't upset and thinks I don't listen lol
Blame the pregnancy hormones!
    06-15-2009, 05:41 PM
Bwahahahah pregnancy brings on cravings and selective hearing!
    06-15-2009, 05:49 PM
Tom Thumbs are not EVIL. I had a horse who loved it. She seemed to be the exeption to the rule. Too often they are used as a snaffle. There are plenty of problems with the tom thumb (western version) but I have seen it work and it is not a horrible, cruel bit.

However I don't think you need to move to a leverage bit by the sounds of it. Like MLS said, sit down and talk with your trainer.
I've had success with the smooth wire, but my current horse isn't a fan. People will probably give me crap for it, but he goes nicely in a slow twist eggbutt. It all depends on your horse.

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