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post #11 of 21 Old 03-11-2009, 12:12 AM
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They're an interesting bit. I prefer more simple and gentle bits, but that's just me. I think you'll be fine in the D ring snaffle for now

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post #12 of 21 Old 03-11-2009, 12:17 AM Thread Starter
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I love this website!! Thank you all for your quick responses : )

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post #13 of 21 Old 03-11-2009, 12:18 AM
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It's a good bit for a finished barrel horse only. I use one similar (Mine has a middle piece with a roller). I normally run in a plain snaffle though, I only run in the gag to give subtle cues on my finished horse.

Like someone said, the top part is to attach to the headstall, you attach the reins to either the o rings or the shanks
I agree here. Train in a snaffle - I ran my QH pro times (i was a kid at the time) in a snaffle or a basic curb. For a finished horse with a very advanced rider that's fine to use a more technical bit in the right circumstance, but default should always be snaffle!

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post #14 of 21 Old 03-11-2009, 08:01 AM
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There is one other factor to this bit that no one mentioned and that is the gag feature. Notice that the mouth piece can slide on the cheek pieces. That creates much more pressure on the poll then a standard curb bit will do. It is much more severe that way and should only be used by someone who knows how to use it properly and has light hands. There is a proper way to adjust it as well.

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My advise is that since you are not familiar with the bit, avoid it. A properly trained horse will do anything you need him to do in a snaffle. The use of any other bit should only come for specialized purposes and only when you fully understand them.

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Thank you all for you all for your advise. This mare is verry well broke and moves nice off leg pressure. I don't seem to have to mess with her muouth much at all. I feel that this bit should not have been used by her previous owner and am going to start patterning her on the barrels with just my good old d ring.

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post #16 of 21 Old 03-11-2009, 12:36 PM
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Thank you all for you all for your advise. This mare is verry well broke and moves nice off leg pressure. I don't seem to have to mess with her muouth much at all. I feel that this bit should not have been used by her previous owner and am going to start patterning her on the barrels with just my good old d ring.
I LOVE to hear that! :)

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ha, my friend has this bit! she got it from someone who called it a wonder bit and thought it was just a nickname because it can work wonders! that's funny. i had no idea it was used by western riders. she uses it periodically in the show ring with her very giant very hot jumper. i would NOT recommend it for most people. thank you iridehorses for mentioning the gag action! if it's the same bit i'm thinking of, it's one of the harsher gag bits and NOT for anyone who's never used a gag before. KTSpeedhorse, it's comforting to hear someone say that their horse moves well off their leg and doesn't need a harsh bit. if the good old d ring works for you, keep using it!
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post #18 of 21 Old 03-12-2009, 01:21 PM
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The wonder bit is designed to put pressure in many different places in the horses mouth. It is harsh, I barrel race and I would never use that bit because of its severity. If that is what the horse is used with and wont work with anything else I understand but I would try to change to a lighter bit if that is an option. The wonder bit has shanks for leverage. When you pull back, the rings rotate to put even more pressure in the horses mouth along with the chin straps pressure. When you have that much leverage with a bit like that, it really digs at the top of the horses mouth. If you can get a different bit, I would highly suggest it. 2 of my barrel horses work great with just a tom thumb and the other one of mine works great with just a snaffle.
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I thought gag bits were illegal in pretty much all show rings?
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post #20 of 21 Old 03-12-2009, 04:48 PM
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I thought gag bits were illegal in pretty much all show rings?

not the jumper ring! they allow practically everything...
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