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post #1 of 40 Old 02-22-2013, 08:43 AM Thread Starter
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Bates Next Gen

Looking for feedback on the Bates Next Gen. I've been eyeing one online for a few weeks now and I keep second guessing myself as it doesn't look deep but i've heard it rides like a deep seat. So need opinions on the Bates Next Gen.

Main reason is I really wanted to find a nice mono flap Schleese with front and back blocks with a deep eat for eventing. However Schleese is out of my reach right now. I keep looking and not finding. The $3000+ is to much of a stretch at this current time. So while I am saving up for the Schleese I need something nice that will get me through.

Also any other suggestions other then Bates? I am looking for a deep seat, front and back blocks. Prefer mono flap but its not a deal breaker. Needs to fit a narrow horse 4" gullet should be about right. And I can't go over $1500. So I am looking for quality used. Oh and obviously an AP/Event saddle.

So any ideas throw em at me. I am open to just about anything

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post #2 of 40 Old 02-22-2013, 09:07 AM
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m toulouse are really pretty nice and I know they have a mono flap.

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m toulouse are really pretty nice and I know they have a mono flap.
Im drooling over this one... http://intecperformancegear.com/M.-T...id-3300M1.html

I think I may have found the sadlle. I love it.

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M. Toulouse are very nice saddles, and that one you've posted is definitely drool worthy, NBE.

Not a big fan of the monoflaps myself, but that has everything to do with personal preference and nothing to do with actual function.

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Fudge I assumed all their saddles were adjustable. I think this one might be as it only has seat sizes. Going to email manufactor and find out http://intecperformancegear.com/M.-T...d-6901GEN.html

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I had that Bates and it pitched me forward. The M. Toulouse seems to have a better center or balance.

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I had an M Toulouse that I absolutely adored. It was so pretty and soft and cozy. I could have sat in it for hours and hours and hours... but... alas... my horse grew far too wide for my wide Toulouse and the one they have that is adjustable... refused to adjust far enough.... So I purchased a Bates Next Gen, it is not my Toulouse... It is a very comfortable saddle and I think it looks nice but I feel like it wants to pitch me forward just a bit, although with a half pad I'm a bit happier... I have an x-wide gullet on it...

Here is a pic, not sure if that helps you decide or not...

I will have to look for a sideways shot.
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I'm taking a trip tomorrow and the area we are going has a couple bigger tack shops. I think I am going to take a side trip and check out the tack shops and sit in a few saddles and see what there is.

Farmpony you said a half pad corrected some of the tipping. Do you think its more of a fit to the horse? I find saddles that tip people forward is more of the saddle not fitting the horse properly as it is not perfectly balanced. I suspect that is why the half pad corrected it a bit. Which makes me suspect that the Bates is meant for a higher withered horse.

Things to think about.... hmm... hopefully the tack shop I am going to has a decent selection in to sit in.

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I feel like in never have enough contact with bates saddles
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I'm taking a trip tomorrow and the area we are going has a couple bigger tack shops. I think I am going to take a side trip and check out the tack shops and sit in a few saddles and see what there is.

Farmpony you said a half pad corrected some of the tipping. Do you think its more of a fit to the horse? I find saddles that tip people forward is more of the saddle not fitting the horse properly as it is not perfectly balanced. I suspect that is why the half pad corrected it a bit. Which makes me suspect that the Bates is meant for a higher withered horse.

Things to think about.... hmm... hopefully the tack shop I am going to has a decent selection in to sit in.
Very likely. I had to put the extra wide gullet in it to get an ok fit. I was unable to find any saddles that fit him well. He's not even that huge in my opinion, just very wide in the shoulder so saddles are hard to fit him.

So yes, that could be some of the issue...

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