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post #11 of 40 Old 02-26-2013, 05:34 PM Thread Starter
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Very likely. I had to put the extra wide gullet in it to get an ok fit. I was unable to find any saddles that fit him well. He's not even that huge in my opinion, just very wide in the shoulder so saddles are hard to fit him.

So yes, that could be some of the issue...
Sorry I hope you didn't think I was critiquing your saddle fit! I wasn't. It was more to get the idea of how they fit. I am thinking from your explanation the Bates wont fit my gal. I actually surprisingly enough am leaning towards a Thorowgood T8. I sat in one yesterday and they are really nice quality. They are completely adjustable in gullet and flocking which is a win for me. It sucks that I have to order a smaller gullet as it comes with MW but thats okay. I actually like it in brown which I have never been able to say about a synthetic. But the seat and knee flaps are real leather. Needless to say I found my saddle lol. Thorowgood T8 Jump showjumping saddle



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I've heard really good things about the thorowgood saddles actually and no offense taken on the saddle fit question. I went through an HDR, the Toullouse, and am currently on a Bates. My older quarter horse could use any saddle without ever having any issues. He just had the perfect little saddle fitting body... this horse just has SO much halter in his blood.... hard to fit him.....

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Not a fan of the Thorowgood-K&M-Hastilow saddles. They are all built on the same tree. The difference is in the quality of the leather (TG is synthetic).

They put you in this terrible chair seat that makes it really hard to get out of the back of the saddle. I've had several people of various builds and heights try out my K&M and it put everyone in a nasty chair seat and made it really hard to 2point in. They are nicely constructed though and the adjustability is great for really hard to fit and constantly changing horses. The synthetic leather in the TG is really nice though and looks just like leather.
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Im drooling over this one... http://intecperformancegear.com/M.-T...id-3300M1.html

I think I may have found the sadlle. I love it.
I have a Marcel Toulouse with a genesis system. Absolutely love it!
They're very comfortable, and the leather is a bit soft. They have a tendency to scratch easily, but the scratches will come off easily if you rub it or clean it with some leather cleaner.

They're awesome saddles, I recommend them. (:

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Where were you able to sit in the Thorowgood T8 jump saddle? I've been calling around the country and cannot seem to find anyone who has one in stock that you can go sit in. I want to try out the jump saddle since I already have the synthetic version of the GP and am looking for a slightly more forward flap.

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post #16 of 40 Old 03-01-2013, 09:31 AM Thread Starter
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Not a fan of the Thorowgood-K&M-Hastilow saddles. They are all built on the same tree. The difference is in the quality of the leather (TG is synthetic).

They put you in this terrible chair seat that makes it really hard to get out of the back of the saddle. I've had several people of various builds and heights try out my K&M and it put everyone in a nasty chair seat and made it really hard to 2point in. They are nicely constructed though and the adjustability is great for really hard to fit and constantly changing horses. The synthetic leather in the TG is really nice though and looks just like leather.
Its funny you say that. The Thorowgoods are very popular in the dressage world around here. If they are adjusted properly they should not be tipping you forward or putting you in a chair seat. I have ridden in a few of the older Thorowgoods and found them to be very comfortable and put me in a great position. I've ridden in the dressage and GP.

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Where were you able to sit in the Thorowgood T8 jump saddle? I've been calling around the country and cannot seem to find anyone who has one in stock that you can go sit in. I want to try out the jump saddle since I already have the synthetic version of the GP and am looking for a slightly more forward flap.
I haven't been able to sit in the jump saddle but I have a friend who has ridden in the jump, and her and I look for the same things in a saddle. She said its really nice and comfortable so I am going for it. Greenhawk had to order it in for me as they don't have the jump in the store and I wanted it in brown which has to be ordered anyway. So it will be 10 long weeks before I get it in *sigh*

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FYI, I just spoke to a saddle fitter who sells the T8 jump saddle. Because it is a jump saddle, the plate in it is much shorter than a normal AP saddle. She said if you have typical high wither narrow TB type horse, it most likely will not fit well in the front. I'm going to get the GP to be safe.

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FYI, I just spoke to a saddle fitter who sells the T8 jump saddle. Because it is a jump saddle, the plate in it is much shorter than a normal AP saddle. She said if you have typical high wither narrow TB type horse, it most likely will not fit well in the front. I'm going to get the GP to be safe.
Thanks for the heads up. Brat Mare isn't high withered but she is narrow. Either way though I am not ordering it. I was talking to the lady at Greenhawk and she said it was going to be 12 - 14 weeks and I still had to pay it all up front before she will order it. Greenhawk has screwed me over before making me pay prior to receiving the product and the product never arrived and I didn't get my money back. So i'm not going down that road.

Back to square one. Looking for a saddle *sigh*

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Thorowgood T8 High Wither GP Saddle

Do you like the AP version? This one does fit narrow horses like a glove and has very good balance for the rider. It's not as forward a flap, but my long legs never come close to shooting over the flap even when my stirrups are at XC length.

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I do like the AP, but the only place in Canada that sells them is Greenhawk and they don't carry the brown in stock. It has to be special ordered. I don't like black on my girl so id want the brown, which means 12 - 14 weeks for it to come in.

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