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post #11 of 28 Old 02-16-2012, 12:52 PM Thread Starter
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As always... Whatever fits your horse...

But seriously I'm not a fan of Stubben (sorry, SR!), and even less fan of AP. Stubben never felt good under my butt (plus all I tried were bad fit for either of my mares). Collegiates are nice saddles though.

Now if Stubben would be dressage I'd advice Stubben over Collegiate (as IMHO Stubben is a higher end), however with AP I found it to be rather hard to do a flat work (if you plan on doing it seriously), and every AP I tried gave me a chair seat. So I'd say try Collegiate.

Won't know what fits until one turns up, that is the joy of long distance shopping. I'm hoping that the Collegiate will be the right shape for him, and that the changeable gullet will help to get a good fit.

I actually prefer to ride in an AP rather than a dressage, but to be fair the only dressage saddle I have I mainly rode Fancy in, and I think it was her that was the issue, not the saddle
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It's interesting, because I think dressage one puts in better position than AP (unless you have more bent in your knees then I do). Also A LOT has to do with the saddle itself. Both Stubben dressage saddles I tried pushed my legs forward as well as Centaur, while my Vienna helps to keep them under me (I think I'm uneven though, so may be part of the problem why it's hard for me to find one that helps my position).

I never tried dressage Collegiate, but the AP I had seemed to run wide (I had medium that was a good fit for mine, most of other brands require wide for them). In any case I hope one of them will fit your boy.

BTW, if you come across Thornhill by any chance I'd recommend to look into one: those run wide and nice saddles for the price.

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Not everyone likes Stubbens Val, so no problem.

I like that they have a more firm seat, while other people think that's horrible. I'm used to a firm seat and have always preferred them.

I haven't found that my Siegfried puts me in a chair seat, but it's all about individual body types and personal preference.

I say use whatever works best for you and horse. Casper's saddle is a Wintec 2000 AP, and I love it. I equally love the Stubben on JJ.
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I like that they have a more firm seat, while other people think that's horrible. I'm used to a firm seat and have always preferred them.
I bet your bum is made of rock then! I like soft fluffy ones...

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I bet your bum is made of rock then!
Nope, just have plenty of natural padding back there.....

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Actually ladies I think you may have missed the fact the the Stubben has a biomex seat Stubben | Charlotte's eCatalog which I think would overcome any tendency to hardness
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Actually ladies I think you may have missed the fact the the Stubben has a biomex seat
That's cheating then!

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Absolutely, and it is one of the reasons that the Stubben is attractive
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I have a Stubben Roxanne jumping saddle with Biomex seat. It is very comfortable, but not smooshy, which I wouldn't want. The new Stubbens are vastly different from the old ones - wwwwwaaaayyyyy more comfortable, but just as well made. I bougjt my current one new and it was worth every gold doubloon I paid!

That said, if a 19 inch saddle fits you, the 18 inch will be to small and vice verse. Doesn't seem like there is much of a question here - get the saddle that will fit you now.

Also, do you want a dressage saddle or an AP. Getting a saddle that doesn't fit and isn't what you need/want simply because the price is good, isn't a good deal. Think of it like clothes. If you wou;dn't pay full price if you could, don't pay half price just because you can.

Good thing about Stubbens especially and Collegiates to a lesser extent is that they hold their value. If you get one now and need something different later, you should be able to sell it without too great of a loss, so long as you care for it well.
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Absolutely, and it is one of the reasons that the Stubben is attractive
You don't have to buy a squishy seated saddle; Cashel makes a Tush Cush for English saddles.

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