To be honest with you, I never rode in the spade bit. I polished it up & store with the family silver in a velvet case, lol! My daughter sometimes takes it out & looks at it when we use the silverware. Best western bit I have found, many horses I ride/have ridden work/worked very well in is a Robart pinchless bit. I like their reiner. Don't seem to be that common, but I found 2 here locally and other's have ordered them in. Haven't seen anyone mention them on this forum.