Bon Marshall would be the place you want to look: Sports Saddle, Inc. :: Bob Marshall Treeless Saddles
I will send you the mounting link tonight.
The two horses in question with the shoulders are owned by the same lady. One is a Missouri Fox Trotter and the other is a morganxqh. I used to find her saddle pads all over the trails because they would just push them out from under the saddle. Weirdest thing I ever saw!
My structured saddle, like I said can be used with a plain regular pad. But also because its an English saddle that does mean it doesn't need a pad at all.
My less structured (demo) saddle does need a pad to provide a bit more spinal clearance than it gives on its own. It feels very similar to bareback - I can feel a LOT Of my horse's movement. Not as much as I can bareback, and not as much as with a bareback pad, but I definitely feel him and its nice when I can feel him tense up in the body before it escalates into another issue.
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