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post #41 of 61 Old 12-13-2012, 08:54 PM
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I grew up with them. I found it depends on the maker. Some are so tight, it takes two hands to pull down, others open with a little wiggle, the hook part is slightly short. I prefer them for cross tying, in the wall end, but certainly not for leading.
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post #42 of 61 Old 12-13-2012, 09:03 PM
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It's really interesting - the prevailing way of tying over here (in my experience, and anywhere from racing stables to riding schools) is to baling twine. Cross ties are pretty rare - there were 3 cross-tie spaces at a stable I worked at (which had 100+ racehorses) and it was only used for saddling up horses for trackwork that were really girthy or just plain grumpy. All the other horses were just tied to a baling twine loop tied onto the metal wall rings outside the stalls. There weren't any crossties at all at the boarding stables I had Brock at (which had over 200 horses and was otherwise very well equipped). Hard-tying is a big no-no over here, everyone who hops on a horse is told to tie to twine and use a quick release.

I just taught Brock to groundtie. I do tie him to twine if there is some but if not I just drape the rope over the fence (I don't want him breaking the fence). Occasionally he does panic and pull back enough to break the twine but as soon as he breaks away the rope drops down toward the ground. Feeling that, he drops his head and stands, so he doesn't actually end up going more than 3 feet ever, even if he was in a total panic 5 seconds before.

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I know of a horse who was tied directly to the ring who paniced, pulled back, slipped, fell and because there was no twine to break his neck broke instead, it was a nylon headcollar and a nylon rope, a horses neck will snap before they do.

I always use a cotton rope, and wwhen travelling always use a leather headcollar. I always tie to twine never to the ring directly.

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I know of a horse who was tied directly to the ring who paniced, pulled back, slipped, fell and because there was no twine to break his neck broke instead, it was a nylon headcollar and a nylon rope, a horses neck will snap before they do.

I always use a cotton rope, and wwhen travelling always use a leather headcollar. I always tie to twine never to the ring directly.
Yup I've heard a few similar stories (from reliable sources who'd seen the horrific events).

As one very true old saying goes, "A chain is only as strong as its weakest link" - and you want the "weakest link" to be the cheapest, most disposable "link" (i.e. Not the fence, a fancy leather headcollar or the horse itself!).

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Yup I've heard a few similar stories (from reliable sources who'd seen the horrific events).

As one very true old saying goes, "A chain is only as strong as its weakest link" - and you want the "weakest link" to be the cheapest, most disposable "link" (i.e. Not the fence, a fancy leather headcollar or the horse itself!).
it was a good friend oc mine whos horse snapped its neck. Id far rather lose an expensive leather head collar than a horse. My leather headcollar isa sabre and costŁ90 it has huge sentimental value but id far rather it snapped than mg horse did
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I've never seen lead rope with quick release either (I do have the trailer tie with quick release though, and I use break-away halter in a trailer).
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At the ranch I used to work at, our trainer was this old cowboy type guy who commonly used a 'patience pole'. He tied many, many horses back there. One day, he tied his prize QH mare at the patience pole and left to go work on other things. When he came back he found his favorite horse dead. She broke her neck and was hanging at the pole.
@evilhorseofdoom, I find it very interesting that everyone over there ties to baling twine. Seems like very good practice that should be employed over here too. It is definitely not common here, at least not where I live. Everyone ties with the lead rope over a hitching post. Even trailering, the owner of the barn I work at ties horses in the trailer with a regular lead rope with a quick release knot.
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I have seen many different situations where twine won't break or slip knots don't come undone. I have never been able to undo a slip knot on a panicking horse, on other people's horses, different types of slip knots tied.. and not just me, I have had big burly guys not been able to undo them. Every time I had to unbuckle the horses halter and set them loose (enclosed area) or cut the twine. Once I saw 4 horses tied with slip knots to twine pull part of a fence out of the ground, freaking out dragging it all over, which made out several other horses panic. Only one horse broke free, I had to cut the twine on all the other horses.I will only tie to blocker tie rings or some other special release tie ring.

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If they pulled the fence out and were tied with twine then the fence clearly was not a good one and shouldn't have been used for tying in the first place. As I said earlier - a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. The first thing to give will be the weakest, the idea is to make sure the weakest thing is also the cheapest, most disposable and safest thing there.

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