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        10-25-2013, 12:37 AM
      #1421
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    Originally Posted by VickiRose    
    Well I'm a bit nervous today. Tomorrow I've got to take Rose the pony out to the trainers to start a couple of months intense work. Thing is I'm nervous about a) getting her on the float, b) towing and c) her behavior when we get there.
    I'm getting DH to help, and to drive, but the road is winding and the last section is quite rough. I keep telling myself all will be fine, but I'm stressing a bit. And that's if I can get her on the float! We are borrowing a float from a friend. Otherwise I would have done some training with her on loading etc, she was fine when we got her and loaded like a pro but it was her old owner doing the loading and she had a lot of trust in her. Tomorrow will be our biggest test of how much Rose will trust me.
    Wish me luck!
    I have had a problem horse for loading and you discribed what mine did Would load then out of the blue she refused.
    Get ready to leave long befor time so you have time to spend loading if required. And get a smile on your face if the horse senses you are a little unsure the fight will begin and she may win Also don't hold eye contact it has to see a soft eye. My horse used to be able to be lead onto the float then she refused and the end result was now she is driven on by pressure to her rump and a lose lead rope. Works a treat. Just like being herded by the alpha horse.
         
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        10-25-2013, 05:10 AM
      #1422
    Weanling
    Thanks Stan,
    She may be fine, but you're right, I'll have to act cool and confident for her. We'll give ourselves lots of time too, and carrots
         
        10-26-2013, 04:10 AM
      #1423
    Weanling
    Well that was a failure!
    One hour later the closest we'd got to the float was front feet on the ramp.
    We tried a few things, I started by just leading her up confidently like I expected her to load. No go. Then tried the lets stand and have a look, then load. No go. Tried working her near the float to remind her I'm boss, then load, still no go. Tried someone else leading, tried carrots, tried a bit of pressure from behind etc etc.

    Then decided to give up.

    Trainer is coming out Monday morning to have a go. We're going to try putting a calmative in her feed (good as Gold) first to see if it helps.

    I'm very disappointed in myself and Rose.
         
        10-27-2013, 01:58 PM
      #1424
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    Vicki - Sorry that all didn't go to plan. A bit of work and all will be sorted. I hope that the trainer manages to work some magic for you.

    I got out for a hack down the road today - it was lovely except I was soaked to the skin before we even set off. We got to the yard and it was lashing out of the heavens - I decided I'd catch them and we could get tacked up while it was raining - not so smart!! Bandit was straight to me, he's such a gent. Nod.... oh Nod.... if I had a gun.... lol! I spent over 30 min trying to catch the little tart - she has become pals with somebody who obviously doesn't like to be caught and she galloped around the field pretending to be 20 years younger. I get my cool, kept at her and refused to let her stop for a break and eventually she stood, looked at me as if to say "would you hurry up already, I'm ready to go in". I have holes in my paddock boots, and it was only for I happened to have one spare sock I didnt ride with water sloshing about.

    Anyway... for the first time riding out of the new yard both did very well. Bandt was keen, and bar Nod going out of sight once very well behaved. Nod relished being out of an arena and seeing some new sights. For a pony who spent her entire life showing, she is a topper out on a hack.

    Heres my view this morning

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        10-27-2013, 03:30 PM
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    Originally Posted by VickiRose    
    Well that was a failure!
    One hour later the closest we'd got to the float was front feet on the ramp.
    We tried a few things, I started by just leading her up confidently like I expected her to load. No go. Then tried the lets stand and have a look, then load. No go. Tried working her near the float to remind her I'm boss, then load, still no go. Tried someone else leading, tried carrots, tried a bit of pressure from behind etc etc.

    Then decided to give up.

    Trainer is coming out Monday morning to have a go. We're going to try putting a calmative in her feed (good as Gold) first to see if it helps.

    I'm very disappointed in myself and Rose.
    Bit of a bummer you did not manage to get her loaded and that you had to give up, I have been down that track with one of my mares. When the horse is standing beside you is it standing with its shoulder at your shoulder and standing tall and whe you were working it around the float was its standing tall or head down.

    The problem was with my horse over time it had decided it was the boss of the herd and even though it would do as I asked when doing ground work and was also safe when I rode her she refused to float.

    It all came down to who was boss and I had to get that back, once done, the issues went away. I also got a Perelli trainer in for the loading and it was sorted in ten minutes, and she pointed out what was happening. Once it was pointed out what the horse was doing I could see the body language. Worth the $35 and I learnt some thing new.
         
        10-27-2013, 06:46 PM
      #1426
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    Hi everyone.

    We had a productive lesson today. We cantered for the first time since the accident. We rode lots of transitions (mostly because I can't keep him at the canter for more than a few strides) and she even had me go down the long side instead of just staying on the circle. I'm pretty happy with that because I thought I would have trouble cantering now after the bad fall we had a couple of weeks ago, plus previously I had trouble communicating the transitions to him and he would run on his forehand instead of switching gaits. So in a way my lack of ability to keep him at the canter forced me to practice transitions which I had trouble with anyway. We only had one bad transition and five good ones, so I can't complain.

    It was also the second week without the neck stretcher and boy was it a struggle to get him on he bit in the walk, but she insisted that I keep working on it until I get there. Now my hips and buns are on fire - but she said that's good because it shows that I'm using my leg more correctly.

    Later in the lesson she asked me to do leg yields from the quarter line in the sitting trot, which she's not asked before so I goofed that up a few times. I always underestimate how much room he needs to turn. The movement itself wasn't bad but I turned in the wrong spot more than once. Argh!
         
        10-27-2013, 09:17 PM
      #1427
    Weanling
    Trainer should be here in an hour or so to try and load Rose. Gave her some Good as Gold last night and we'll give her rescue remedy before we load her to see if that helps.

    Stan, the other day she was head up, eyes rolling, trying to set back on her butt if we put pressure on her to load. I'd walk her up to the ramp, she'd have her head level but breathing like she's stressed, ears back. We'd get to the ramp and she'd plant her front, head up, eyes rolling, sweating, stress poo, etc etc. if you let her stand at the foot of the ramp, she would bring her head own, but she was breathing hard, sweating and trembling. I read that as fear, but I'm no pro at this by any means.

    When DH tried, she was more defiant, turned her butt if she could etc, but she generally is worked by me and DD, DH doesn't do much with her.

    I'll see how she goes today. Hopefully I'll be able to report back that it was just my inexperience and that Rose loads fine in more capable hands.
         
        10-28-2013, 04:48 AM
      #1428
    Weanling
    Well, we didn't end up trying to load her today. The trainer had a flat on the trailer, so we are rescheduling for Wednesday. She mentioned that if the Good as Gold and rescue remedy don't work, she might consider giving her ACE to semi-sedate her. Has anyone else tried this? I'm concerned about Rose having to stand in the trailer/float after it. How much does it sedate them? I've never seen it used.
         
        10-29-2013, 01:19 AM
      #1429
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    Originally Posted by VickiRose    
    Well, we didn't end up trying to load her today. The trainer had a flat on the trailer, so we are rescheduling for Wednesday. She mentioned that if the Good as Gold and rescue remedy don't work, she might consider giving her ACE to semi-sedate her. Has anyone else tried this? I'm concerned about Rose having to stand in the trailer/float after it. How much does it sedate them? I've never seen it used.
    I've never sedated a horse but have given equlibrium mineral mix with a good content of magnesium. Spelling probibly all to hell today its been a long day.

    Does sound as if there is a fear issue but she has to go through it and forcing her may be a backward move. I open the grooms door to get enough light as I can into the float and is it a single or double. However has she been in this float before. Another thing I recommend is to ballance the wheels on the float. Ever tried traveling in a float with out of ballance wheels it shakes like h--- and it is very noisy.
         
        10-29-2013, 08:52 AM
      #1430
    Weanling
    Hi Stan, she's currently getting a twice a day dose of magnesium chloride, and it has really helped her generally, just not with this issue. Are you talking about the equilibrium cool max? I asked in the nutrition section if anyone had tried it, but didn't get any replies, prob because its not an American product. Have you tried it?

    The float is a nice wide double, in good condition and lightly used. It belongs to friends of mine. It's the same one we used to bring Rose home on when we bought her back in May. That time she loaded fine, but her old owner did the loading. She has been such a different horse with us compared to when we looked at her and went back to get her, and not in a good way, that we suspect she may have been drugged in some way. Not sure what with though, we were there for nearly four hours when we looked at her and she was fine the whole time. Otherwise it's just my inexperience, which is highly probable!

    Hopefully it all goes well tomorrow and she loads like a dream )
         

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