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post #631 of 4299 Old 04-25-2013, 03:32 PM
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Drafty, seriously wtf with those managers. You're darned if you do, darned if you don't! keep your chin up and working towards your goal of not having to work there anymore and doing your own business like you want. The hell with that bunch!

Kymomo can't wait for pics, I'm imagining them in my head.

Fingers crossed for those euromillions Maple! I never think about playing the lottery, only when its a outrageous amount then we will buy a few tickets. We never win anything though.

Afor, that's just ridiculous! Perhaps the father needs to be seeing the therapist instead! I wonder if he realizes how stupid he must look.
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post #632 of 4299 Old 04-25-2013, 03:36 PM
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Afton - use moments like that to give yourself a pat on the back and remind yourself that you are a good parent :) I'd say nothing unless he says it to me, kids tend to spit out whats on their mind.... even if it's not something you want to hear at times! :)

Drafty - I'm the opposite. I'm no good at being "the boss". I wish I could be more umm... for lack of a better word, dominant? I'm not good at instructing people what to do, I'm good at asking and never have a problem with them doing things, but couldnt imagine being "bossy".

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Maple, I'm not "bossy," exactly. I'm like a lead mare, really. I ask with the least amount of pressure/force needed and expect that what I ask will be done. If it doesn't get done, then I ramp up the pressure. If that means yelling, then that's what I do. Funny thing, though, it rarely comes to yelling (it did yesterday because I matched my energy/amount of pressure to the situation).

Ems, I'm stuck in a rut. I seriously just had an epiphany about that. I'm comfortable with the status quo. Ok, maybe not exactly "comfortable," but I can't think of a better word. Lol.
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post #634 of 4299 Old 04-25-2013, 04:58 PM
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kymomo- sorry to hear about the job. Maybe it's just the end to one chapter with an even better one on the horizon.

Yay Maple for not killing your car too many times on your first drive! The dominant the boss mare. Dan says that I make the same face that Jana does (my old bossy redhead mare that I love to pieces)...he swears that I pin my ears. Who knows, maybe? Whatever it is, it works, he pretty much does what I want and I don't even have to threaten to kick or bite... On a serious note, I can relate to not being dominant enough. I had to get over it real quick when I worked in an investment firm and was the only female broker. Ugh, the men in that office were some of the most arrogant jerks I've ever met.

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post #635 of 4299 Old 04-25-2013, 05:30 PM
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Kymo...I'm really, really sorry to hear that! =/
I know that people have a business to run, but it's amazing the lack of sympathy that businesses have towards their employees. *sigh*

I usually end up being in charge at last *real* jobs, I"ve been management. Not because I like being in charge per se...I just don't like being below idiots on the food chain. And I like things to get done. The more we get DONE, the more time we have to relax an do jack sh**. I sometimes tell my employees a version of this lol. ;)

Though I was once told by the COO of a company I worked for that I should be several positions up, that my management style was great...but that I"m a woman.... >=/. Seriously didn't realize that kind of crap still existed till that moment. It's kind of demoralizing...

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post #636 of 4299 Old 04-25-2013, 06:53 PM
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Just a closing comment on the Parelli comments.
I am not offended and respect others opinions but one of the points that came through was it seems that the negative comments about Parelli was respect and what is called the games.

I also have noted the comments that the Parelli exponents were self taught. Self taught may be the problem, and not the theory of the training. As for getting thrown or kicked or the horse shying that is what horses do, given a set of conditions and to push for the leadership position is another.

There is no such thing as a bomb proof horse even the most reliable of horses will resort to its natural instinct when it comes to survival. The object of any training is to have the horse accept the person on the ground, and on its back, as the lead horse and to listen to that person.

So folks I do respect the point of view of others, and have said so but it seems to have been missed, and, i have never been insulted by a response. But ladies what i see is mostly an emotional response. Love the passion displayed. However, don't close the mind.

A final note Parelli works on pressure, voice, touch, heavier touch, and so on untill object achieved. It also works on a partnership with the horse. Perhaps those that you have experienced have skipped to the partnership before any training and respect has been installed. Perhaps those want a be Parelli trainers lack the leadership skills required.

One of my horses will respond to voice on most ocasions even when in full flight. Its just one of the tools in the bag which are used to control. The other horse i am working on. I even talk to my horse when riding unless he/she has to concentrate when on dangerous ground, then I shut up, and leave them to it. Partnership, I am now relying on my horse to keep me safe.

Maple. Keep practicing with the stick shift it gets easer but dont develop the habit of slipping the clutch to often. It can become expensive. Try driving in heavy traffic you will get the hang of changing gears real fast.

And here is my final statment. If it worked for the horse and sorted the problem then it was the right method don't you think. Thank g--- he has finished they said in unison.

So now I will throw out a new way of training the horse. How many have used the prof Jesse Berry method of training.
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post #637 of 4299 Old 04-25-2013, 08:41 PM
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Had never heard of Prof Jesse Beery until mentioned in the above thread. I looked it up and it's made for some fantastic reading. I'm going to try to find the book used or at our library and read some more.

As for Parelli... I know I'm coming in late to the conversation but my opinion is that they made a name for themselves somehow. Some part of what they do had to work on a large number of horses for them to be as popular and prosperous as they are today. Same with any trainer out there. I haven't ever found a single trainer that I agree with 100%.

That being said, I would not let a trainer work with my horse without first meeting and talking with them and would prefer to be there at least the first few lessons.
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post #638 of 4299 Old 04-25-2013, 10:54 PM
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I got to see "my" horses today for the first time in a week, to say they were happy to see me was an understatement lol. I'm just so glad to be over the sinus and ear infection that I had. Looking forward to more horsey time tomorrow.
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post #639 of 4299 Old 04-25-2013, 11:05 PM
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Today has been a suck day. I think I have raging PMS. I've wanted to kill everyone within sight or hearing distance. Seriously, I understand why mother lions sometimes eat their own young.

It did make me feel better to go see Dalilah and Pan though. He was so cute and wanted to be scratched and rubbed all over. He backs his butt up to you lol.

It also made me feel better when I checked Lucinda's (my goose) eggs (using a high lumen flashlight), I saw that all 8 have internally pipped into the air sacs and I could hear them peeping. We will have 8 fuzzy butt goslings tomorrow!
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post #640 of 4299 Old 04-25-2013, 11:10 PM
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Ems, sorry you had a bad day. I know how those can be.

Horselovin, glad you are feeling better.

So I have been working really hard at being more positive, because I'm pretty pessimistic by nature. So can someone please help me find the positive in a pulled muscle? My little project mare is very quick and she was being a dingbat.

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