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post #1 of 11 Old 12-29-2013, 10:50 AM Thread Starter
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4H with a horse and pig! Ideas tips? First year showing!

Okay! Guess who finally convinced Dad to let me do 4h??!?(more or less said deadline is soon I'm entering ) ha

Anyways, I'm going to be showing my horse and a pig I believe. Has anyone here done those? Any advice. I am going to be using Sunny:)? I'm excited !! Any thoughts or tips on horse or pig welcome! Please haha
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post #2 of 11 Old 12-29-2013, 10:57 AM
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Well, that's an interesting team! : )

I'm sure your 4-H leaders will have plenty of instruction for you.
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I have showed horse two years now, this is my third year in 4-h.

I will give you advice even if you have teachers, because my first year in 4-h our horse leader didn't even teach anything she just made us ride around and do nothin. didn't even practice showing.

Stand tall, you are showing your horse, you are proud to be showing your horse.
Always smile.
When you walk around the arena, look forward not down. Every five steps look at the judge for to or three steps and always be smiling.
Keep good eye contact with the judge when you are and aren't being judged.
Know your quarters and always do them in line and being judged. But don't race the judge, wait until he crosses the 'lines.'
Once you are in the arena, try not to adjust your hands with the lead.
Don't touch your horse. If you are being judged and your horse moves around, ask the judge poilitely if you can turn your horse around and re-set him.
When you set your horse up, try not to make too much time doing it. I usually say do at least the front feet in a line and if it is tkaing too long then just stop there. When you set your horse up, you want your horses hooves to form a rectangle, or for the back legs and front legs to be the same.
One thing that helped me is when I looked at videos on how to do your quarters and setting up your horse.
When leading your horse you should always be on the left side. You right hand should be holding the lead below the chain, and your left hand should be neatly holding the lead in a figure eight. Most people say to just loosely coil it arund your hand - but if your horse spooks unexpectdly and takes off, that lead will close around your hand and then wherever your horse goes, you go.
Last year there was five horses showing. The judge was walking up and down the line when a car alarm went off. Three horses spooked and took off towards the other end of the arena - thnakfully no one got hurt. The fourth horse just jumped and moved to the side. But I taught my horse to not be afraid of any sudden sounds or movements and he has also been almost everywhere - parades with fire truck alarms and screaming little kids - but he was the only horse that stood there, asleep! Didn't even flinch! So it really pays off to have your horse get used to everything. Plastic bags, tarps, screaming, cows, everything.
Make sure you work in the arena that you will be showing in.
I'm not sure if you are riding english or western or if there is a dress code difference, but for western it is : white long sleeve tucked in to black pants, a nice belt, cowboy hat or helmet, hair pulled back, and all clothing and person is neat and clean. And of course your horse should be clean as well!

I suggest that when you are preparing for a show - horsemanship or showmanship, you get ready at least an our early. It may sound like a lot of time - but it goes by fast when you are nervous.
Make sure you are dressed, your number is neatly pinned to just above th middle of you back, your horse is in his show attire and you groundwork him. Do lots of groundwork - circling, pivoting, backing, practicing trotting and walking with him on ground, etc.

One thing, is I also suggest that you bath your horse the night BEFORE the show. If he rolls in the stalls then blanket him. but most horses don't - depending on the size of course. But if you do it day of then everyone will be at the wash racks, and depending on how many there is (there is only two here) then people may be standing in line for a while.

I can't really think of any other tips right now, but if I think of more I will be back!!

And you never know what might happen your first year - My first year and my second year (last year) I won reserve champ both years and with different horses. I first used golley, but then my friend joined and she didn't have a horse - so I started using Brisco and I still am!
But still don't get your hopes up. Always shoot for getting a blue or red ribbon and if you also get higher than that - hey, it's a bonus!!
Good luck!!
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post #4 of 11 Old 12-29-2013, 07:18 PM Thread Starter
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Wow Amberly THANKS! And in the group I am.. no horse leader... so I only have friends that have done horse and are doing horse to help me 0.0 but hey I really want to so I am going to! I know I want to do the halter class, but not sure about anything else.

Do you have to do EVERYTHING? Sunny just doesnt have a slow collected lope so I could do W/T but then again he isn't very good at neck reining.. also, working on barrels so he doesnt trot very slow lol;) but we can work on it.

I mostly want to do Halter( thats what he is bred for lol)

I am not sure of the dress code..

Did you use a NICE leather show halter? I know my friend got 4th place with her Gelding last year.. Not sure who won or anything.

- I already have Sunny standing square, been working on it for it I want to go to a playday near my house which does everything throughout the day.:)

Gosh Im so excited Im probably just rambling on.. hha Sorry..
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I just finished my 9th and final year of 4-H this year, my advice to you would be:

First and foremost, IT IS JUST FOR FUN. 4-H is for friendship and learning.

Other than that, if your county is anything like mine, there is no exact color dress code. Our only required things for show include a helmet, long pants, a long sleeved shirt with a collar, and close toes boots.
Always always always smile. It will go a long way. Even if your horse isn't doing exactly what you want, keep smiling.
Not everyone in my 4-H club even used a leather halter. As long as it's clean and well fitting its fine for 4-H.

Take in as much as you can, it is an awesome learning experience and goes by way too fast.
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My girls showed 4H for years and had lots of fun. My tips: Study for your levels tests as even if you only show halter the level tests are required - your county extension office can give you the study guides and testing dates (google if you don't know who or where they are).

Youtube is your friend when you want to see how the classes are run.

Grooming very important - and even if you don't have a horse leader in your group, and you want to stay in that group - you can probably google 4H horse leaders in your area for clinic dates and times - in our area they have clinics prior to shows that are open to all 4Hers...

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You've gotten really good advice on the stuff related to the actual showing.

As a mom who had three kids, plus foster kids, plus a couple nephews all show at the fair in 4 H, my advice is:

1. Don't just eat the food on the midway. You will get sick and green only looks great on the 4 H emblem.

2. Try, try to rest some or you will get crabby and drama will explode around you. Then you have to patch up friendships afterwards.

3. When your friends don't follow the advice I gave in 1. and 2., don't take it personally. They will become more normal again in the couple weeks after fair.

Have fun. I know nothing about pigs and every kid I went with showed pigs (and horses, and dogs, and chickens, and some steers/heifers/various sheep). But we all had a blast.
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post #8 of 11 Old 12-30-2013, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by barrelbeginner View Post
I know I want to do the halter class, but not sure about anything else.

I mostly want to do Halter( thats what he is bred for lol)

I am not sure of the dress code..

Did you use a NICE leather show halter?
There are other riidng classes and other shwoing classes - you can do as many or as little as you want. I love to show, and last year I entered in just about everything except english - because I wasn't so interested then.
Make sure to find out what 4-h says you have to do. Like for us we have to do at least regular showmanship, we don't have to do any others if we don't want to.

For western dress code it is:
western hat or helmet, black pants, white long sleeve, nice belt and western boot. They also recommend your hair be pulled back neatly.

I'm actually nor sure if you HAVE to have a nice show halter because I know they probably wouldn't mind because you know some people may not be able to afford one or something. But I think they recommend it - and I do too ;)

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post #9 of 11 Old 12-30-2013, 12:23 PM Thread Starter
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hey Amberly.. Do you know about the level testing? are the different for different areas? like my friend is not to sure about some stuff when I asked.. like.. Sunny isn't too well neck reined..-.0 for level testing can you direct rein? or do you have to neck rein for the testing.. thanks

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I've shown both in 4H and FFA.

For pigs, all I can say is work with them often and let them trust you. If you can get them to think of you as another one of their herd, then they are much easier to show. And you perform how you practice, so every time you are actually working on showing find something (a post, a barrel, anything really) to be the "judge". Pigs are a fairly expensive animal also, so budget for them. Also learn as much as you can about proper care, grooming, what the notches in the ear mean because a judge can ask you ANY pig related question.

As for horses...
I suggest working A LOT on halter because it teaches your horse good ground manners and actually helps out with your riding. My very first year of showing my horse went lame on me and I couldn't ride him. He was a good broke horse but he was a little stubborn with his attitude. I was only allowed to work halter all summer, and I did everyday for half and hour. We both got really good at it and when it came time to get back on him, he had a completely different attitude towards me. Don't get me wrong, work on riding a lot to, but work on halter just as much because it really does help in the long run.

As for the testing, 4H leaders just want you to have fun and be safe. As long as you can demonstrate that your horse is not going to kill you and you can be around horses in a safe way then you'll have nothing to worry about. Our 4H leader is a real stickler, she made us memorize all of the parts of both the western and English saddle/bridle (and we don't have anyone that rides English in our club). We had to know all of the parts of the horse and proper feed and grooming. But most of them aren't like that. Just know your general parts of the horse and the tack and be safe.

4H is a wonderful thing and hopefully you'll get all of the enriching life experiences I've had and are still having.

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