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        12-15-2012, 02:54 AM
      #11
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by boots    
    I would never "adopt." Seems to be an excuse for control freaks to make money off unfortunate horses.

    There are plenty of good horses needing good homes.
    Just to clear things up... my rescue does not ask for more than $500 for an adoption fee. Many of our well broke rescues go to organizations that use them for lessons and therapy for FREE. We also offer FREE training during the entire time you own the horse.

    The sad part is that it takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch...

    Not all rescues are an excuse for control freaks to make money and as a matter of fact we don't make money. We LOSE it and ALOT of it.
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        12-15-2012, 02:56 AM
      #12
    Foal
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    Well on to the next one, physical inspection of your property before even trying out any horse on our property. Random check ups and only if after two years you have the horse and things look ok... we'll take it to the board and if you are declined then no refund for your provided care and the horse comes back. Oh and $100 non refundable application fee. No moving allowed with in 5 years after adopting.
    This is the main reason why I don't adopt animals. To me that's not full ownership, that's paying money to be a foster home.

    That being said I really sympathize with the position legitimate rescues are in. The feeling of rehoming a horse and discovering that you put them in a horrible home is absolutely sickening, and one I've experienced personally - You just never know with people, and the only way to really know that an animal is going to be well cared for is to either do it yourself or practically babysit the person doing it.

    Thing is, people don't like to be hovered over, and if a rescue really wants to rehome its animals so it can take on more that's just not practical. The "limited" ownership and invasion of privacy I see in most adoption contracts these days turns me right off. Like others have said, I'd be more inclined to cut out the middleman and find my own rescue through auctions or craigslist, etc.

    It's too bad, since whether a rescue drives away potential adopters with unrealistic standards and has to turn away rescues, or adopts to anybody with a chequebook and rehomes rescues into bad homes, the animal pays the price.
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        12-15-2012, 02:57 AM
      #13
    Weanling
    I actually bought an Aussie puppy rather than adopting an older dog because the rules were SO **** strict. Then later I was looking into adopting a small, older dog as a companion for my Aussie... but for $400!? I said to heck with that and was seriously considering buying a mixed breed pup, for less than the adoption fee of an older rescue dog.

    I think it's pretty sad when someone is turned off of a rescue dog, which is generally less adoptable and desirable than a puppy, because it's a heck of a lot easier to just go buy a puppy.
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        12-15-2012, 03:01 AM
      #14
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by AlexS    
    Every animal I own comes from a rescue other than my horse, the no rehoming clause makes perfect sense with dogs and cats and I am happy to agree to that.

    I would never adopt a horse, never, unless the rules change. Horses change hands, it happens, it's normal. I'd prefer to keep my horse, but I can't promise I can commit to $500 a month boarding and shoeing costs.


    I wonder why rescues can't find enough good homes for horses, maybe they could make the clause - the horse ends up with them if care can't be provided. Is this rocket science, I think not.

    My opinion, I can go right to the auction myself. I can rescue the horse by outbidding the meat man. I don't deem this as a rescue, you were the highest bidder. So what is a rescue horse? I dunno. Once in the rescue the horse is safe, so adopting isn't rescuing either.


    Side note - what is high tensile wire?
    We do allow rehoming to an approved home. Its easier for us if they find the next adopter. We work with everyone case by case. I do agree "what makes a rescue"? I think that will be an interesting debate and I also don't think their is a wrong answer. Its all on individual perception. Very valid points...
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        12-15-2012, 03:11 AM
      #15
    Yearling
    It is sad... the animals always pays :(

    We have the contract just in case but don't enforce it unless it is really truly a bad situation and most of the time we are to busy to do home checks and be all excuse my language but Anal about things. Too **** many horses "need" saving...

    We also weed out rescues by personality and trainability. Sounds bad but if we can't train them, they don't find homes and take up space.

    Rescuing isnt black and white and is very controversial...
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        12-15-2012, 07:09 AM
      #16
    Green Broke
    I would never take a horse that came with any strings attached whatsoever. I think boots summed it up pretty well. COntrol freaks and busy bodies. No thanks. Whats even better is the lies and hypocrisy some of these places do,
    Verbally SAY one thing is ok, yet written contract says another. These places cry for help yet want to put way to many strings attached for me. Sell me the horse, don't sell me. Once I take final possesion my dealings with you are over.
         
        12-15-2012, 09:02 AM
      #17
    Started
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    Originally Posted by Wallaby    
    I had an unfortunate experience with a rescue horse this summer that left me, while thankful that there are rescues out there, never wanting to adopt a horse from an organization.
    Of course the horses need adopters but seriously, I don't want to encourage the ridiculous one-up-manship-type politics that seem to plague the rescue game.


    If you want to "rescue" (very noble, I commend you), I bet you could find a horse that needs an "upgrade" without any rescue-related strings.

    I found my Lacey girl through a common friend and I suppose you could (depending on your interpretation of "rescue") say she was rescued in that there was already an appointment for for euthanization scheduled for not even a week after met her which would have happened if I hadn't met her and "clicked" with her (she's a "hot" mare that needs specific handling and she's "old' - not a great combo for selling). She also had some serious training issues and a bunch of mental issues that just needed correct handling to get through.
    I don't like to think of her as a rescue since I really feel like she rescued me more than I rescued her. BUT, in terms of an upgrade, 5 more years of life, so far, is pretty good!

    Anyway, bottom line, you don't need to use a rescue to rescue a horse. :)
    That is an awesome term Wallaby!.....upgrade. That was my situation too. My percheron was going to be euthanized and the vet team had to get her off the ground. My other girl I paid $400 and upgraded her life.

    OP, I have not dealt with a rescue, but am thinking they are not all the same. However, out of the four horses I have owned, three of them were given to me for free and the last one I purchased for $400 when I was actually looking for a horse that time. All wonderful horses. There are plenty of horses out there being given away. I also found that once you are 'in' somewhere....like a boarding facility or some horse organization by leasing a horse or volunteering etc....horses are suddenly offered to you when people see how well their animals are taken care of and people have life changes that don't include their horses any longer.
         
        12-15-2012, 09:18 AM
      #18
    Green Broke
    I was going to adopt a horse once. There was a one year lease and after that the horse was given to you under the condition it was never raced again. It was fair and all, but the horse didn't work out for me.

    I'd do it again if I had reason to - but I'd never "adopt" a horse with a lot of conditions with it. Once a horse is mine I want it to be mine - not mine subject to loads of conditions.

    It's a tricky thing and as much as I'd like to save a horse or something, it's difficult. I spend a fair bit of my money on my horse every week - its not just some pet that lives at home, it takes up a lot of my time and money and I don't want to keep doing all that, putting all the work in, and then be told I can't do what I want with my horse.

    It's a choice that each person needs to make for themselves, but I'll always lean to owning a horse outright.
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        12-15-2012, 09:35 AM
      #19
    Weanling
    I almost adopted a horse until they told me he would never be mine really. Their horses always remain property of the rescue, subject to inspection and scrutiny at any time. I've got a problem with feeding and training a horse for years and not having a say in it if they decide they want him back, or not being able to sell the horse if it isn't a good match but I've already put countless hours of work into it. Like someone else said, I'm not going to pay to train and feed a horse that isn't mine.
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        12-15-2012, 09:41 AM
      #20
    Started
    I am wondering if the wording and terms used with rescues is a legality possibly? Even though that is how it is said, how could a rescue actually check on all of those horses adopted out for their whole lives? Many rescues have limited funds to feed the horses and pay the employees to begin with, moreless check up on and take back horses they already adopted out.....????
         

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