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        12-15-2012, 09:42 AM
      #21
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by countrylove    
    It is sad... the animals always pays :(

    We have the contract just in case but don't enforce it unless it is really truly a bad situation and most of the time we are to busy to do home checks and be all excuse my language but Anal about things. Too **** many horses "need" saving...

    We also weed out rescues by personality and trainability. Sounds bad but if we can't train them, they don't find homes and take up space.

    Rescuing isnt black and white and is very controversial...
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    Exactly my point with the hypocrisy from rescuses. If you are not going to enforce it why is it int he contract ? If you're not anal (your words) why have anal verbiage in the contracts ? When you write one thing on paper, but say another your talking out of both sides of your mouth and to me, is an immediate turnoff and something I would want nothing to do with.
    Case in point with specific, contract spelled out a mandatory paste worm cycle, yet potential adopter uses fecal count and worms as needed. Contract spelled out, "No Racing". Yet this was an arabian rescue and adopter specifically wanted the horse for endurance.
    In both points the rescue said, "Oh don't worry about the contract its just a formality",,,, well then take it out of the contract.
    Seriously. If you know stuff is anal and you know your not going to enforce it, stop being anal and intrusive with the contracts and maybe you will place a few more horses in decent homes.
         
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        12-15-2012, 09:47 AM
      #22
    Started
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    Originally Posted by Joe4d    
    Exactly my point with the hypocrisy from rescuses. If you are not going to enforce it why is it int he contract ? If you're not anal (your words) why have anal verbiage in the contracts ? When you write one thing on paper, but say another your talking out of both sides of your mouth and to me, is an immediate turnoff and something I would want nothing to do with.
    Case in point with specific, contract spelled out a mandatory paste worm cycle, yet potential adopter uses fecal count and worms as needed. Contract spelled out, "No Racing". Yet this was an arabian rescue and adopter specifically wanted the horse for endurance.
    In both points the rescue said, "Oh don't worry about the contract its just a formality",,,, well then take it out of the contract.
    Seriously. If you know stuff is anal and you know your not going to enforce it, stop being anal and intrusive with the contracts and maybe you will place a few more horses in decent homes.
    I agree. Maybe it's to weed out the ones that have no clue about owning a horse by using big language and words to scare people into thinking how serious the contract is?
         
        12-15-2012, 10:00 AM
      #23
    Yearling
    I don't think I could ever adopt a horse, I want it to be mine. But buying a horse who needs out of a bad situation that I've done. My old mare was skinny an underweight when bought, and my mom felt so sorry for her now 2 year old last year she had to save her. Paid more than she was worth at the time but given a few more weeks she probably wouldn't have made it.
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        12-15-2012, 10:01 AM
      #24
    Weanling
    I rehomed my horse from the Scottish SPCA, an what they do is sell you the horse, with full ownership. They get you to fill in a questionnaire and then come and do a visit to the yard where you will be keeping the horse, and do one further visit within six months which they arrange with you. Other than that, you pay, horse is yours, you can sell it on afterwards and move it if you desire... Worked pretty well for me :)
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        12-15-2012, 10:08 AM
      #25
    Green Broke
    If horse is yours, whats with the 6 month visit ?
    To the people reading this involved with rescues.
    You have some serious problems in the way things are going and this seems to be an industry wide problem. You have a message board forum. The members a cross section of people who not only own horses, but simply the fact they are on this board means you are dealing with a population of people pasionate about their horses, doing research, swapping ideas and learning and growing on how to take better care of their horses. Yet almost universally the membership , or at least those posting here wants NOTHING to do with rescue organizations.
         
        12-15-2012, 10:10 AM
      #26
    Showing
    What amazes me with all these restrictions is with the state the US economy is in plus the natural disasters, money is drying up for rescues. Many have taken in so many unwanted horses they are now finding themselves in court. This situation is worsening by the month especially with the slaughter plants in Canada closed for export for the next few months at least. The problem with rescues that will take a horse back is that someone else foots the feed bill, vet, farrier, training then loses the horse with no compensation? Because someone's best friend wants the horses? That is the reality. Buy your horse outright. I'd even question the legality of those contracts. They wouldn't exist if a court decided the adoptee deserved compensation for interim care.
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        12-15-2012, 10:44 AM
      #27
    Showing
    A word to the rescues; if you're TRULY interested in rehoming horses, then do it without all the ridiculous stipulations. Do your due diligence about making sure the horse and person are a good match, then sign over the animal free and clear.

    If you think you have the right to pop in and visit whenever you feel like it, put stupid, restrictive rules in place, and expect to be able to take the horse back if there's a difference of philosophies in care and training, then you're your own worst enemies. You can't want to rehome the animal that badly if you expect to keep your thumb on it forever.

    Continue with the crazy, over controlling rules, and keep moaning about how HARD it is to find good people to adopt, instead of admitting that the real problem is YOU.
         
        12-15-2012, 10:48 AM
      #28
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Joe4d    
    if horse is yours, whats with the 6 month visit ?
    To the people reading this involved with rescues.
    You have some serious problems in the way things are going and this seems to be an industry wide problem. You have a message board forum. The members a cross section of people who not only own horses, but simply the fact they are on this board means you are dealing with a population of people pasionate about their horses, doing research, swapping ideas and learning and growing on how to take better care of their horses. Yet almost universally the membership , or at least those posting here wants NOTHING to do with rescue organizations.
    The six month visit is so etching that they 'retain the right for', they don't always do. It's because the SSPCA here is not only a rescue but has legal rights of seizure and prosecution in animal welfare cases here in Scotland. Technically they can inspect any premises if there has been a complaint made, and the six month check is nothing to do with taking the animal back but just an inspection to make sure everything is ok. The animal by this point is legally yours, but the check means the society is aware of the animals situation and stops it essentially going into another abusive/cruel/negligent home. But then our animal welfare laws are different here, the sspca actually has legal power which I don't think US protection societies do?
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        12-15-2012, 10:50 AM
      #29
    Banned
    What Speed Racer said! Hubby and I honestly looked at adopting two horses instead of buying. With the "you must use Parelli" mind set and the terms of the contract which basically boiled down to us not ever truly owning the horse, we opted out. Unfortunate because we would have provided an excellent home for two horses. *shrugs*
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        12-15-2012, 10:53 AM
      #30
    Trained
    No wonder the the rescues are overcrowded!

    I have "rescued" several horses as in I gave a home to needy animals. As far as letting some busy body into my life so that I can spend a lot of money on a horse that nobody wants to start with........ Not likely. These are horses that nobody wants. I have looked at a few sites and the average horse is either old, lame, ugly, untrained, ungelded, or otherwise not worth taking home.

    If you want your horse to always have a good home, geld him, train him, and keep him healthy.
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