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post #11 of 39 Old 11-28-2012, 10:03 AM
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That's a scary incident! Glad you are okay.

I agree that the barn manager needs to address this issue because clearly the horse is unsafe for any boarder that walks in there. What is he, or the horse's owner, going to do when someone goes in there to get there horse, and Joey kicks them in the head, sending them to the hospital? Who's going to be responsible and pay the bill?

If the owner doesn't know what his/her horse is doing, they need it brought to their attention.

As for yourself, I would try to not be alone when you go get your horse, in case something happens, someone is there to help.

It's very tricky dealing with an aggressive horse because if you show even the slightest hesitation or uncertainly, they could capitalize on it and call your bluff. That's the case where an agressive horse could become MORE aggressive with your trying to be the boss, if you don't "be the boss" absolutely perfectly. And that can be as little as you stepping backward from the horse, that can give them the cue to "attack".

So, make yourself as big and scary at all times, and LOUD! Don't be afraid to actually smack him with the whip if he needs it. Think of how a stallion would get another horse back in line if they misbehaved. They'd pin their ears in warning, they may squeal, and they certainly would nto have a problem biting or kicking the horse if they don't listen to their commands. Put those same principles to use. Have more of a forward stance with your body languange, and you can even sort of "crouch" (as if you were coiled like a snake ready to bite!). You want to appear as a predator figure to that horse with your body, to show you mean business, and don't mess with me.

With an aggressive situation like this, I wouldn't even be opposed to bringing something like a paintball gun to keep the horse away from me. At least with that, you aren't limited to the 5 feet of lunge whip. I don't take aggressive horses lightly. It's too dangerous.

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post #12 of 39 Old 11-28-2012, 07:44 PM Thread Starter
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I cannot thank each of you enough for your feedback. I agree with all that has been said and will try and answer the questions posed:

1. He was gelded "late", or that is what I was told. I was also told today that he has been showing aggressive behaviors for a week and they were becoming worse each time (duh, nobody has checked this gelding back into place, so of course he is going to continue)... that is information I should have had prior to going into pasture.

2. Ah, the owners and barn manager. Owner apologized but is not convinced this is an issue, let alone a safety issue. The barn manager has no plans on changing anything. He is not going to consider moving the gelding or adjusting turn-out...

So, today I decided it is time to move. There have been other instances involving safety concerns and honestly, I'm not taking any more risks with me, my daughter or my horse. We are moving this Friday to an exceptional place I have had my eye on for quite some time (the farm I would buy if I happen to win the mega millions!).

3. I am not the most experienced by far, but I have had to deal with my share of pushy horses, including the race horses, so I have an understanding of the dominance "dance" that occurs - I feel like instinct overrode my logic and "flight" instead of "fight" kicked in...

I do thank those that said they would use the whip even on a horse that wasn't theirs if in a situation like this... it helps me grasp how seriously dangerous situations can be and made me feel like I wasn't over-reacting.
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Oh my goodness: thank you to all of you for asking if I was okay; this is a great community of folks.
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post #14 of 39 Old 11-28-2012, 08:10 PM
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I woulda took a whip after that horse and hit whatever part of its body I could
Wouldn't even care if I hit his face.

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Good luck at your new barn, glad nothing actually came of this event! (injuries, I mean)

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post #16 of 39 Old 11-28-2012, 08:31 PM
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Sounds like a smart decision to me! Good luck.

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post #17 of 39 Old 11-28-2012, 11:22 PM
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I woulda took a whip after that horse and hit whatever part of its body I could
Wouldn't even care if I hit his face.
Personally..I would try to avoid hitting a horse's face with a whip. I had a friend who didn't think of it when his horse was being stupid, hit him in the face with the whip and the lash caught his eye..Almost blinded him and he had $400+ in vet bills to take care of it, on top of meds and lots of stall rest (couldn't have direct sunlight in his eye because of the meds) for a good 2 months. He's not blind, but you can still see the mark it left on his eye.
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I would not want to hit a horse in the face with a whip. That said, with dangerous horses like this gelding (or the mare on the other thread), if they're coming at me, I'll hit them where ever I happen to hit them. Better a blind horse than a dead me.
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I agree with what you have decided. If that happened here, as Barn Owner, I would have taken care of the aggression issue for you and I would have either moved your horse or the gelding so that you wouldn't have had to worry about his aggression.

On a personal level, I would have come back with a whip, a baseball bat or a piece of metal pipe and I'd have NAILED that sucker for even thinking he was going to dominate me, my horse or not. I don't take chances with iffy horses and mine or not, I'd have had a serious 'prayer meeting' with that horse.

Since your BO is unconcerned, then I think you are doing the only thing you can, moving. Glad you're ok and that you've got a good place to go.
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post #20 of 39 Old 11-29-2012, 12:05 AM
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I am glad that you are moving barns. It's just not acceptable that the BO isn't doing anything about the situation.

I don't believe in disciplining or interfering with someone elses horse, however if the horse is coming at me, all bets are off and I would knock the snot out of him.
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