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post #1 of 12 Old 06-25-2009, 08:54 PM Thread Starter
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All I can say is... Wow.

Haha a little bit of venting here... Just thought I'd share.

So there's this girl who shows in 4-H with me. And 4-h is just like for fun, mostly, you know? Well, she has this registered paint, and he is just an angel. I mean darling. He is well-mannered, sweet, and he's SO big, but he would never hurt a fly. Plus, he's been very well trained, so he can do about anything. Well, this girl, we'll call her T, is SO mean to him. And so cocky and rude about everything. No one likes her because she is way less experienced than everyone else, but she will constantly criticize our riding, showmanship, etc. So we all kind of try to avoid her, but of course... that never really works.

So I went to State last year, and a friend and I were planning to help each other wash and finish stalling our horses, basically finishing up together. Well, T just threw herself right in there, leading her poor horse right up between ours and being like... Let's wash him first, he's a paint, he needs it more. You guys can do yours tomorrow. Well... we didn't want to wash tomorrow, T, we wanted to do it tonite. DUH. But, she is just so persistent, so out of control and out there. Plus, her mom is like, head of the horse committee, so she cries to Mommy if you say no and then you are being reprimanded. So, we helped her wash her horse, and then, she just LEAVES. doesn't help us do ours. We were pissed.

THEN, she was being all buddy buddy to me... And she was like. I don't like this girls horse. It's ugly and stupid and not trained well at all. Well, that girl was one of my best friends, and she is so nice, and her horses are gorgeous and the only reason T would say that is because that girl always beats her. I'm like... uh, T, that girl trains her own horses and I think they are gorgeous. T glares at me and then finds someone else to talk to. Then, she was talking to the girl, and saying how she just LOOOOVES her horses. I was so mad, I had to tell my friend what T said. my friend was just like... I know, I've heard that from lots of people.

Then, later, I heard that T was telling people that my horses are idiotic and ugly, and that I am such a b*!ch that she would never talk to me, and she's SO glad she always beats me. Well, T only beats me sometimes, and even then, it's just because my horses are home trained and hers are professionally trained. Not that I'm being stuck up or anything but I just hate it when people on awesome horses say that it's their riding that's better and that's why they're winning, when really it's just that their horse is so good.

So when I beat T in reining she freaked out, went to the judges, asked for a rescore, said she didn't know about some of the rules... blah blah blah. she knew. they ignored her, which of course they would, they're the judges. well, T complained about it all day.

and then, in trail, there was a waterbox. my horse has never seen one, I doubt a lot of horses have in 4-h. my mare and I had a bad experience with a mudhole earlier in the year and i was pretty sure she wouldn't cross it but i asked anyway, and of course she refused. So I was just proud of her overall job, other than that. T made fun of me all weekend. Then, her horse was about to cross it and she got tired of waiting and spurred him hard. He was trying to do good, and it scared him. he jumped into the waterbox, caught his back foot on the edge because she was still spurring him, slipped, and fell. OBVIOUSLY, the judges saw, they asked her to leave, she freaked out, blamed the horse, and ran off crying. I was the one who went into the arena, took the poor horse out, and calmed him down. He was BLEEDING, her spurs were so harsh. Then she yelled at me for touching the horse. I was about to strangle her.

Now, she's been training with this awesomely nice lady who comes and gives clinics sometimes. Well, T always interrups the trainer, points out things she thinks we're doing wrong, everything. even the trainer asked her to stop! but she doesn't. ugh, I just can't STAND people like that! I'm like... go show in paint shows if you're so good... leave 4-h to those of us who train our own horses and actually help others out, that's what it's about.

anyway, she told me yesterday that if her horse pushes on her, like rubs on her or anything, she always carries a tack around... she says she just picks it up and jabs him in the nose. I about decked her. but you just CANNOT tell her anything, she won't listen, gets angry, tells her mom. I feel so bad for that poor horse and I try to do as much as I can for him... but there's only so much you can do, you know?

Ugh, sorry, just needed to vent a little. IT'S JUST SO WRONG! *strangles T*

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post #2 of 12 Old 06-25-2009, 09:33 PM
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omg thats HORRIBLE!!! i HATE people like that!!!! i would just simply ignore her i know its hard but its like a little kid throwing a tantrum all they want is to be noticed!so if ya just ignore them they (hopefully) figure its not worth it if no one cares. best of luck
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post #3 of 12 Old 06-26-2009, 02:39 AM
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I can't believe she sticks him with a tack. I think you should tell somebody about this.

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post #4 of 12 Old 06-26-2009, 08:24 AM
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That is warped. I get this nervous twitch when people with pro-trained horses get all superior acting in 4-H. To me, 4-H is all about the kids and what they achieve with their horses. I've been in 4-H for over six years (this is my last, I'm getting old, lol), and I love showing my horses who I have trained myself. I'm no colt starter, but both of my horses came to me knowing only the very basics. Everything they need to know to show I taught them, and I love it when we hold our own against people with pro trainers and the money to sink into them if they have an off day. Pro training should not be outlawed in 4-H, there are instances where it is necessary, but members (and judges, while I'm at it...) shouldn't put the pro-trained, high buck horses on a pedestal over the others. It's about the kids and their training and showing abilities, and their relationship with their horses. This girl did not invest the same time and dedication into training her horse as you did (or so it sounds). Half of showing ability is sportsmanship and graciously accepting being outshown and outridden, this girl has truly poor sportsmanship. The incidents with the spurs and the tack are all that I will say about her apparent relationship with her horse.

Great, now I'm ranting too, lol. My advice? Be curteous when she is, but just walk away when she starts this jerky behavior. As far as junk like the tack, if you see it happen, I'm pretty sure that is breaking the 4-H code of conduct, etc., at least in my state. Bring it up with whoever is more in charge than her mother. Stunts like that are just uncalled for.

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post #5 of 12 Old 06-26-2009, 08:36 AM
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OMG a tack :( And in the NOSE of all spots! That poor horse, I wanna take him home and cuddle him and show him how a caring horse owner should be. I can't stand people like "T".

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post #6 of 12 Old 06-26-2009, 10:11 AM
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OMG....that is aweful! I commend you for having such patience...I would have punched her by now. Yeah, if there is anyone you can talk to about her actions and treatment of her horse and people around you, I would do that asap. Another post said to ignore her. Can you get quite a few people to all just completely ignore her? When she goes to talk to people just don't even respond and act like she's not there. It's not fair for you guys to all be harrassed. I sure hope you can find a way to get this girl to shut up and leave everyone alone including her poor horse. :(

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post #7 of 12 Old 06-26-2009, 09:51 PM Thread Starter
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ugh thanks guys. it makes me feel better to just be able to vent and then have awesome horse lovers feel the same. =)

Scout, I KNOW! I mean, yeah, just because the pro trained horses do the complete best, that doesn't mean the judges have to always place them best and completely ignore the horses that are home trained. and yeah, I've trained my horses from the basics, except for two, my C2M colt and my green horse, those I have started from scratch.

The thing is guys... Her mother IS the authority. The other leaders aren't really that into horses, they're never around, and even when they are they are too busy to do anything. I mean, they are just... WARPED busy, it's crazy.

goldilockz -- I know, I LOVE that horse! He's still so sweet and gorgeous and nice, ever though she's constantly mean to him.

thank you dakota. Sometimes I think that if she keeps it up I might just smack her. Ugh, and I could totally handle her obnoxiousness if it wasn't for her horse! Poor baby!

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post #8 of 12 Old 06-26-2009, 11:57 PM
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There has to be someone higher up then her mom that you could go to about this. I am not familiar with 4H, but maybe you could send them a letter to disqualify her for poor conduct, although I doubt that would encourage someone like her to treat her horse better.... maybe you should carry around a tack to jab at her when she makes you mad.
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post #9 of 12 Old 06-28-2009, 10:04 PM
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I'm not sure if your seemingly endless patience with this girl is good or bad. :/ I have a short fuse when it comes to people mistreating their horses, and I would have eaten that girl alive when she spurred that horse to the point of drawing blood. And the tack thing... There's no excuse for that and you could probably report her to animal welfare, regardless of who her mommy is.

You just have to be confident and don't let anything she says get to you. If she ever finds fault with you or your horse, just tell her that you're **** proud of your horse and nothing she says or thinks is ever going to change that. Make it very clear that you don't care to give her the time of day.

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post #10 of 12 Old 06-28-2009, 10:10 PM
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Wow. How horrible. If you see her poking her horse with the tack again, grab it out of her hands and poke it on her nose! See if she likes THAT!

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