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        05-17-2012, 06:43 AM
      #11
    Green Broke
    At this point, have Pres, (my friend) VP, (me) and Treas/Sec, (moron kid's dad) and a fluctuating group. Only had 5 meetings maybe? Titles are more like ribbon and sash type thing, rather than "We will be in charge" thing.

    No board members.

    And no instructors at all. No one in charge just informal like a quilting group, which is a major part of this problem now that you all have been helping me mull this over. Several things mentioned are things I hadn't thought about, although HAD thought about getting sued.

    And no structure at all to date. Just nothing. Show up, ride, leave.

    Have meeting on horseback for maybe 10 minutes, about wanting to have barrel racers come and use arena and we do concessions, to raise money.

    But there is no one on ground at all to instruct. Majority of riders are 30's, and several 50ish give or take some. A couple of 20's. NO rules, no Codes of Conduct, no nothing.

    Just get together at arena and ride around, or get run over as case may be.

    Up here? Helmets are not the norm at all. Very rural.

    Keep ideas coming as hadn't thought about laying out rules?????

    Maybe Executive meeting is in order???
         
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        05-17-2012, 07:41 AM
      #12
    Green Broke
    I don't think there is any maybe about the need for a meeting at this point. A meeting needs to happen so that groundRULES (not suggestions, not guidelines) and consequences for violations of those rules (specifically important for those rules regarding safety of humans and horses) need to be agreed on. Once those are set, every member needs to sign a written copy of them (for minors have child and parent sign) ........everyone signs before the next time theu ride, period, and new members before their first ride. Helmets for minors is a must, imo, as this is now an organized group/event.....if for no other reason. Than a liability standpoint. Could you lose people over this, sure......but do you really want to ride with someone who won't agree to follow basic rules? For anyone you do lose you will be setting your group up to gain new people who will appreciate having a safe, organized group to ride with.
         
        05-17-2012, 08:02 AM
      #13
    Yearling
    How did a kid get in an adult group? Tell them to join 4-H It sounds like a free for all. Put a sound structure in place. If you meet with major resistance than I personally would quit the group. Doesn't sound fun to be babysitting a bunch of kids.
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        05-17-2012, 08:11 AM
      #14
    Weanling
    It seems that a change in the current ways this situation has been handled is in order for the safety and well being for all involved. I agree with the OPs that set rules are a must before something of a dire nature occurs to some of the people attending. It must be very hard to see this happen in front of your eyes but you are not wrong for wanting a change. I took riding lessons as a teen and any crazy behaviour like that would have terminated as fast or faster than it started. Good luck!
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        05-17-2012, 08:13 AM
      #15
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpiritLifter    
    How did a kid get in an adult group? Tell them to join 4-H It sounds like a free for all. Put a sound structure in place. If you meet with major resistance than I personally would quit the group. Doesn't sound fun to be babysitting a bunch of kids.
    Well, OP has said that the child is the child of another member (officer) - I have absolutely nothing against children being part of groups with adults IF the child, and parents of the child, understand and demonstrate responsible riding. I don't think this is a matter of children vs. adults, but more a matter of ALL riders needing to understand, agree to and adhere to safe riding rules.
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        05-17-2012, 08:27 AM
      #16
    Yearling
    An Executive Meeting is definitely called for to discuss the safety issues and formulate a set standard of rules and regulations. To help "weed-out" the misfits/trouble makers maybe asking for a volunteer to take the position of a Technical Delegate in short a "rules enforcer" and let that volunteer select a sub-commitee to help him/her. Have each TD wear an arm band which could be nothing more than a rolled up bandana tied loosely to the arm between elbow and shoulder. To start off with in a set of rules require that each horse present has a Negative Coffins and it must be presented upon request by the TD. Require each child or young person under 18 to wear a helmet otherwise they can and will be asked to dismount and untack their horse. These 2 ideas are just for starters as more rules can be included as needed to the original charter to the membership. By setting some specific rules of order that will cull out the misfits and encourage new people to join in and keep some of the those with more common sense and safety minded to stay in the membership.

    Best Wishes and Hoping for a Successful Venture...
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        05-17-2012, 08:31 AM
      #17
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by candandy49    
    An Executive Meeting is definitely called for to discuss the safety issues and formulate a set standard of rules and regulations. To help "weed-out" the misfits/trouble makers maybe asking for a volunteer to take the position of a Technical Delegate in short a "rules enforcer" and let that volunteer select a sub-commitee to help him/her. Have each TD wear an arm band which could be nothing more than a rolled up bandana tied loosely to the arm between elbow and shoulder. To start off with in a set of rules require that each horse present has a Negative Coffins and it must be presented upon request by the TD. Require each child or young person under 18 to wear a helmet otherwise they can and will be asked to dismount and untack their horse. These 2 ideas are just for starters as more rules can be included as needed to the original charter to the membership. By setting some specific rules of order that will cull out the misfits and encourage new people to join in and keep some of the those with more common sense and safety minded to stay in the membership.

    Best Wishes and Hoping for a Successful Venture...
    First of all - ITA -- however, I have to say I had a good at the "coffins" - I always prefer my horse is negative for coffins, makes for a much more enjoyable ride
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        05-17-2012, 08:36 AM
      #18
    Started
    Sounds like you're on the right track.

    I think what I would do now is unashamedly borrow the local Pony Club / 4 H / endurance group / Other club's Rules (easily found on websites now) and steal all and any rules from those that you like the look of. That should save you time instead of having to think of (and argue about) rules from scratch.

    And I'm afraid that the titles may be Honorary, but other people won't view them as such. They'll think you're in charge, they'll expect you to be in charge, they will support you being in charge, or they will bad-mouth you if you're not in charge.

    (as Batman says... with great power comes great responsibility )
         
        05-17-2012, 09:00 AM
      #19
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by themacpack    
    First of all - ITA -- however, I have to say I had a good at the "coffins" - I always prefer my horse is negative for coffins, makes for a much more enjoyable ride
    You had a good !! I never caught my typo until you pointed it out!! Heck, I am still chuckling about it and probably will the rest of the day!!
         
        05-17-2012, 01:08 PM
      #20
    Yearling
    A couple friends and I are throwing around the idea of forming our own Saddle Club. If you are interested to see what we have come up with so far, please feel free to pm me an email address and I'll send you copies. Ours is in the planning stage (may stay there forever LOL) but you are welcome to what we have come up with so far if you are interested.

    ETA: We have also hit upon the idea of farrier clinics with basic hoof care being taught. Treatments for thrush actually applied in a real world setting, Do'd and Don'ts of hoof care, etc. If it goes well (if we actually get this off the ground) we may have a farrier willing to do the clubs horses one Saturday a month, possibly more if needed.

    ETA again: We checked a local shop for t-shirts and hoodies with a logo and name. They were actually not a bad price, and we could order as members came on board.( Plain STAFF shirts were really cheap!) The only requirements being the green rider/green horse clothing and ribbons type thing.
         

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